• Ep. 15 | Billing Smarter, Not Harder with Patrick Dunn
    Aug 26 2025

    Why does behavioral health billing feel like a constant battle?
    In this episode of MasterMined, we sit down with Patrick Dunn, Chief Strategy Officer at Hansei Solutions, to unpack the complexities of payer relationships, revenue cycle management, and why billing smarter—not harder—can transform your organization’s future.

    Patrick brings decades of experience as a clinician, executive, and strategist, offering a rare inside look at how providers and payers can stop playing cat-and-mouse and start building partnerships that work. From tackling audits and pay-to-patient nightmares to exploring how AI is reshaping documentation, this candid conversation gives leaders the practical tools to survive and thrive in payer land.

    Why it matters:
    If you’re leading or scaling a behavioral health business, understanding how to navigate billing, audits, and payers isn’t just finance—it’s survival. Patrick’s insights show how to turn compliance into strategy and how providers can win by preparing, partnering, and pushing for parity.

    What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

    • Why payer relationships are shifting—and how providers can respond

    • How to prepare your organization for audits before they happen

    • The real impact of pay-to-patient policies and what legislation is changing

    • How AI and automation are transforming revenue cycle management

    • Why data, documentation, and compliance are now growth strategies

    🔔 Subscribe to MasterMined for more episodes that balance care and commerce in behavioral health.

    Learn More & Connect:

    • Show notes + resources: SnapshotInteractive.com/mastermined

    • Snapshot Interactive: snapshotinteractive.com

    • Connect with the hosts:

      • Mark Scrivner – LinkedIn | Website

      • Jeff Skillen – LinkedIn | Website

      • Lee Pepper – LinkedIn | Website

    • Newsletter signup: MasterMined Newsletter

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    45 mins
  • Ep. 14 Banking on Behavioral Health
    Aug 19 2025

    When is the right time to call an investment banker? And what exactly can they do for your behavioral health business?

    In this episode of MasterMined, Mark Scrivner and Jeff Skillen sit down with L.A. Galyon, Managing Director at Brentwood Capital Advisors, to explore the often-misunderstood world of mergers, acquisitions, and capital raises in behavioral health. Drawing on years of advising founder-led organizations and private equity-backed platforms, L.A. shares his journey into investment banking, why timing matters, and how the right approach can maximize value for owners.

    Whether you’re years away from selling or actively preparing for a transaction, this conversation delivers candid insights on market dynamics, common missteps, and how to position your business for the best outcome.

    What You’ll Learn

    • When and why to bring in an investment banker.

    • How to prepare your behavioral health company for a sale.

    • The current state of the M&A market in behavioral health.

    • Common mistakes owners make in transaction planning.

    • The value of starting conversations before you think you’re ready.


    Subscribe to MasterMined and never miss an episode on behavioral health business strategy, growth, and leadership.

    Learn More & Connect

    Connect with the Guest:

    L.A. Galyon:

    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/l-a-galyon-88244321/

    Company | https://www.brentwoodcap.com/

    Connect with the Hosts

    Mark Scrivner:

    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/markscrivner/

    Company | https://www.snapshotinteractive.com/

    Organization | https://creativeassembly.agency/

    Jeff Skillen:

    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-skillen-199507/

    Company | https://www.skillsetenterprises.com/

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    46 mins
  • Ep. 13 Turning Social Into Admissions Success
    Aug 12 2025

    Digital ads and SEO might get all the hype — but if your social media game is weak, you’re leaving admissions on the table.

    In this episode of MasterMined, hosts Mark Scrivner, Jeff Skillen, and Lee Pepper unpack how behavioral health providers can turn social media into a true admissions driver — not just a branding checkbox. From audience targeting to content cadence, they break down what works, what doesn’t, and how to align your social strategy with your admissions process.


    If you’re running paid campaigns and optimizing your website but ignoring social, you’re missing a key lever for trust, engagement, and conversion. This episode will help you build a social strategy that drives measurable results.

    What You’ll Learn:

    • Why ignoring social media limits your admissions potential

    • How to integrate social strategy with your marketing and admissions funnel

    • Content types that build trust with potential clients and families

    • The importance of consistency and authenticity in posting

    • How to track and measure social’s real business impact


    Subscribe to MasterMined and never miss a conversation that helps you grow your behavioral health business.

    Learn More & Connect:

    Mark Scrivner:

    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/markscrivner/

    Company | https://www.snapshotinteractive.com/

    Lee Pepper:

    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/leepepper/

    Company | https://www.peprallygroup.com/

    Jeff Skillen:

    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-skillen-199507/

    Company | https://www.skillsetenterprises.com/

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    37 mins
  • Ep 12 Why Reputation Precedes Revenue
    Aug 5 2025
    Your reputation isn’t just about how you’re seen — it’s the foundation of your ability to serve. In this episode of MasterMined, New York Times bestselling author and Brand Builders Group co-founder Rory Vaden joins Mark Scrivner, Jeff Skillen, and Lee Pepper to unpack why “reputation precedes revenue” and how behavioral health leaders can build trust through authentic personal branding. Rory shares insights from his “results × reach = reputation” formula, real-world examples, and strategies for showing up consistently without feeling self-promotional. In high-trust industries like behavioral health, visibility is not vanity — it’s a responsibility. By elevating the personal brands of your leaders and clinicians, you can deepen trust, attract more of the right patients, and strengthen your mission. What You’ll Learn: How the “results × reach = reputation” formula can grow your influence Why personal branding is essential in behavioral health leadership How to reframe visibility from ego to service The role of storytelling in building lasting trust Practical ways to “automate trust” at scale Subscribe to MasterMined for more conversations that help behavioral health leaders balance care and commerce with confidence. Learn More & Connect: Visit Snapshot: https://www.snapshotinteractive.com/mastermined Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/snapshot-agency/ Connect with the Guest: Rory Vaden: LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/roryvaden/ Company | https://brandbuildersgroup.com/ Free Audio Book: https://wealthyandwellknown.com/audiobook-mastermined/ Connect with the Hosts Mark Scrivner: LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/markscrivner/ Company | https://www.snapshotinteractive.com/ Organization | https://creativeassembly.agency/ Lee Pepper: LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/leepepper/ Company | https://www.peprallygroup.com/
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    34 mins
  • Ep. 11 Systems Over Stars: How Behavioral Health Really Scales
    Jul 31 2025
    What really drives success in behavioral health — brilliant clinicians or bulletproof systems? Drew Rothermel, CEO of Defining Wellness, has led some of the most respected treatment centers in the country, and his answer might surprise you. In this candid conversation, Drew joins hosts Mark Scrivner and Jeff Skillen to break down the evolution of the behavioral health industry over the past two decades — from pre-Affordable Care Act to the private equity era. He shares hard-earned lessons on building organizations that last, leading with integrity, and making strategic marketing calls when the stakes are high. Whether you’re running a program, working in the field, or planning to launch something new, Drew’s perspective will challenge assumptions about what it takes to truly scale behavioral health services. You’ll walk away with a clear understanding of why operational systems — not just great clinical talent — are the key to long-term impact and growth. What You’ll Learn: Why systems, not individual stars, are the real driver of sustained recovery outcomes. The evolution of behavioral health business models from cash pay to in-network care. The differences — and tradeoffs — between nonprofit and for-profit structures. How CEOs should evaluate and align marketing with organizational goals. Practical strategies for keeping all departments aligned and focused on the mission. If you’re serious about growing and sustaining a behavioral health organization, this episode is a must-listen. Subscribe to MasterMined wherever you listen to podcasts so you never miss an industry-shaping conversation. Learn More & Connect: Visit Snapshot: https://www.snapshotinteractive.com/mastermined Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/snapshot-agency/ Connect with the Guest: Drew Rothermel: LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-rothermel-b-s-m-b-a-j-d-b22991a/ Company | https://definingwellness.com/ Connect with the Hosts Mark Scrivner: LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/markscrivner/ Company | https://www.snapshotinteractive.com/ Organization | https://creativeassembly.agency/ Jeff Skillen: LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-skillen-199507/ Company | https://www.skillsetenterprises.com/
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    1 hr and 13 mins
  • Ep. 10 The Alumni Effect: How Engagement Powers Growth
    Jul 24 2025

    Your alumni program isn’t just a feel-good initiative — it’s one of the most underutilized engines for growth in behavioral health.

    In this episode, Mark, Jeff, and Lee unpack the real business value of alumni engagement. From patient outcomes to long-term brand impact, a strong alumni program creates a ripple effect that touches marketing, admissions, research, and referrals. But building one takes more than a Facebook group and good intentions — it takes strategy, structure, and storytelling.

    If your treatment center doesn’t invest in alumni, you’re missing one of the lowest cost, highest return opportunities to scale your reach and deepen your impact. This episode shows you how to activate that network with intention — without losing your personal touch.

    What You’ll Learn:

    • How alumni can account for 30% of new admissions

    • The cost of not investing in long-term patient connection

    • Why alumni engagement boosts outcomes and brand equity

    • Proven event and activation strategies that scale

    • How to track impact and "defend the spend" with data

    • What to avoid when launching or revamping your alumni program


    Subscribe to MasterMined for more practical conversations at the intersection of behavioral health and business.

    Learn More & Connect:

    Learn More & Connect:

    Visit Snapshot: https://www.snapshotinteractive.com/mastermined

    Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/snapshot-agency/

    Connect with Host – Mark Scrivner:

    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/markscrivner/

    Company | https://www.snapshotinteractive.com/

    Creative Assembly | https://creativeassembly.agency/

    Lee Pepper:

    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/leepepper/

    Company | https://www.peprallygroup.com/

    Jeff Skillen:

    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-skillen-199507/

    Company | https://www.skillsetenterprises.com/

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    44 mins
  • Ep. 9 Accountable Marketing: Moving Past Vanity Metrics in Behavioral Health
    Jul 17 2025

    In this episode of the MasterMined Podcast, the team tackles the realities of performance marketing in behavioral health—and why many treatment centers still waste money chasing the wrong metrics.

    From misaligned digital spend to poor reporting and missed conversion opportunities, Jeff Skillen and Lee Pepper break down what performance marketing really looks like in 2025.

    If you’re running a treatment center, managing marketing budgets, or working with digital partners, this is your playbook for spending smarter—and driving real results.

    You’ll learn:

    • Why performance marketing is more than ad clicks
    • The key metrics that matter for behavioral health today
    • How to avoid wasted spend and improve ROI
    • The importance of transparency and accountability with digital partners
    • Where marketing budgets should shift in 2025 and beyond

    Subscribe for more candid insights from leaders in behavioral health growth and marketing.

    Learn More & Connect:


    Visit Snapshot: https://www.snapshotinteractive.com/mastermined
    Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/snapshot-agency/

    Connect with Host – Mark Scrivner:


    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/markscrivner/
    Company | https://www.snapshotinteractive.com/

    Lee Pepper:


    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/leepepper/
    Company | https://www.peprallygroup.com/

    Jeff Skillen:


    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-skillen-199507/
    Company | https://www.skillsetenterprises.com/

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    48 mins
  • Ep. 8: Beyond the Funnel: Fixing Admissions to Boost Behavioral Health Outcomes
    Jul 10 2025

    In this episode of the MasterMined Podcast, the team dives into one of the most overlooked issues in behavioral health growth: the disconnect between marketing and admissions—and how it’s quietly draining your census.

    From missed calls and untrained reps to siloed teams and reactive leadership, we explore how seemingly small breakdowns in the admissions process can have massive impact on conversions, revenue, and reputation.

    You’ll learn:

    • Why great marketing doesn’t matter if your admissions team isn’t ready

    • Where the biggest leaks in the funnel happen—and how to spot them

    • How empathy, tone, and timing make or break a first call

    • Why training your admissions team is as critical as training clinicians

    • The power of recorded calls and weekly coaching to build confidence

    • How to break silos and unify marketing, BD, alumni, and admissions

    Whether you're a behavioral health executive, call center director, or marketing leader, this episode is your playbook for optimizing admissions—and turning leads into lives changed.

    Subscribe for more real talk and practical insights from leaders in behavioral health marketing and operations.

    Connect with our Hosts:

    Mark Scrivner
    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/markscrivner/
    Company | https://www.snapshotinteractive.com/

    Lee Pepper
    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/leepepper/
    Company | https://www.peprallygroup.com/

    Jeff Skillen
    LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-skillen-199507/
    Company | https://www.skillsetenterprises.com/

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    53 mins