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In this episode Jon and I are back with a new setup, strong coffee, and absolutely no shortage of opinions. We talk Music City Trail Ultra, questionable aid station pickle etiquette, a brand we’re genuinely obsessed with, and some of the wildest recent chaos in the running world—from wrong turns and race drama to medals, integrity, and the real risks people love to ignore.

It’s a little ridiculous, and somehow includes pubic hair and pickle jars.

In this episode Jon and I are back with a new setup, strong coffee, and absolutely no shortage of opinions. We talk Music City Trail Ultra, questionable aid station pickle etiquette, a brand we’re genuinely obsessed with, and some of the wildest recent chaos in the running world—from wrong turns and race drama to medals, integrity, and the real risks people love to ignore.

It’s a little ridiculous, and somehow includes pubic hair and pickle jars.

This week: we officially got moved. Not “we’re almost there.” Not “we’re transitioning.” Fully moved. Living at the farm. Yes, the one affectionately (or concerningly) nicknamed Murder Mile. Which sounds like a true crime podcast but is actually just… our address now.

We’re talking about what it feels like when a place stops being an idea and becomes your real, everyday life. The mental shift. The quiet shift. The “oh, this is permanent” shift.

We get into the two-hour raw milk drive — because apparently this is who we are now. People who will commit two hours round trip for dairy. Is it about the milk? Is it about the ritual? Is it about needing a reason to leave the property and remember civilization exists? We unpack it.

There’s running. There’s long stretches of thinking. There’s that strange recalibration that happens when life slows down but your brain doesn’t immediately get the memo. What feels different. What feels the same. What feels slightly unhinged but in a growth-oriented way.

It’s about choosing a life on purpose. Even when it’s inconvenient. Even when it’s far. Even when your GPS looks concerned.

Press play if you’ve ever committed to something big and then had to sit with the reality of it.

This week we’re recording our final episode from the original Murder Miles studio — don’t panic, we’re not leaving Nashville, we’re just relocating operations like slightly more organized feral adults. What starts as a sentimental moment about neighborhood miles and familiar running routes quickly devolves into chainsaw talk, masculinity rants, gluten grievances, and a full-blown debate about whether elite runners should be allowed pacers or just be big kids and carry their own stuff. We get into the 100-mile record drama, integrity in the sport, Golden Ticket nonsense, and whether ultra running is getting a little too shiny for its own good. Somewhere between nostalgia and near-argument, we question the future of the sport, roast each other, and remind ourselves why we love doing hard things in the first place. It’s chaotic, mildly unhinged, occasionally controversial, and exactly what happens when you give two ultra runners microphones and zero supervision. Same city. New setup. Same reckless opinions.

* (video) Not for Apple or Spotify listening

This week we’re recording our final episode from the original Murder Miles studio — don’t panic, we’re not leaving Nashville, we’re just relocating operations like slightly more organized feral adults. What starts as a sentimental moment about neighborhood miles and familiar running routes quickly devolves into chainsaw talk, masculinity rants, gluten grievances, and a full-blown debate about whether elite runners should be allowed pacers or just be big kids and carry their own stuff. We get into the 100-mile record drama, integrity in the sport, Golden Ticket nonsense, and whether ultra running is getting a little too shiny for its own good. Somewhere between nostalgia and near-argument, we question the future of the sport, roast each other, and remind ourselves why we love doing hard things in the first place. It’s chaotic, mildly unhinged, occasionally controversial, and exactly what happens when you give two ultra runners microphones and zero supervision. Same city. New setup. Same reckless opinions.

* video and not suitable for listening

One year into the Ultra Crewed Podcast (which we completely forgot to celebrate because of course we did), this Sunday night episode spirals through Daytona engines, fallen trees on the farm, relationship stress-tests disguised as furniture assembly, and the brutal reality of the Barkley Marathons—where nobody finished and that’s kind of the point. We get honest about chasing validation, why “harder” doesn’t always mean “better,” and how social media has convinced runners they need to go longer, suffer louder, and inspire harder just to matter. Somewhere between rebuilding a chainsaw and arguing about wet socks at mile 38, we land on the lesson that actually counts: stop worrying about what you can’t control and solve the problem in front of you. This one’s about failure, ego, resilience, choosing each other, and understanding that not everything epic is meant for you—and that might be the most freeing thing you hear all week. Press play if you’re tired of pretending you’ve got it all figured out.

One year into the Ultra Crewed Podcast (which we completely forgot to celebrate because of course we did), this Sunday night episode spirals through Daytona engines, fallen trees on the farm, relationship stress-tests disguised as furniture assembly, and the brutal reality of the Barkley Marathons—where nobody finished and that’s kind of the point. We get honest about chasing validation, why “harder” doesn’t always mean “better,” and how social media has convinced runners they need to go longer, suffer louder, and inspire harder just to matter. Somewhere between rebuilding a chainsaw and arguing about wet socks at mile 38, we land on the lesson that actually counts: stop worrying about what you can’t control and solve the problem in front of you. This one’s about failure, ego, resilience, choosing each other, and understanding that not everything epic is meant for you—and that might be the most freeing thing you hear all week. Press play if you’re tired of pretending you’ve got it all figured out.

* video not for Apple or Spotify listening

Becca Jones and Jon are back, broadcasting from the chaos command center known as Murder Mile Studio. This week, we’re talking about the slippery slope of sacrificing tomorrow’s potential for today’s pride. Whether that’s overtraining at the Black Toe Ultra, running through actual lung pain, or committing to a weekly raw milk pickup like it’s a damn ultramarathon. From butter bartering and Fresca diplomacy to the cult of the pain cave, this one’s got everything. Warning: You might end this episode questioning your relationship with dairy, discomfort, and your own decision-making process. Don’t worry we question all of yours, too.