What happens when a former Satanist who orchestrated 8,000 witches to curse a woman ends up not only finding Christ but becoming her ministry partner? In this powerful episode of Blood and Oil, we witness one of the most extraordinary testimonies of God's redemptive work as Adele and Riaan share their journey from darkness to light.

Adele Vrey, who spent decades in Satanism before encountering Christ during a failed kidnapping attempt of a pastor's son, wrote a book exposing occult practices in South Africa. Years later, Riaan Swiegelaar—then a spokesperson for the South African Satanic Church—was assigned to discredit her. Through a series of divine appointments, Riaan had his own encounter with Jesus and eventually partnered with the very woman he once considered an enemy.

But this conversation goes far beyond their dramatic conversion stories. With refreshing clarity, they dismantle common misconceptions about spiritual warfare, explaining why "the devil has no legal claim on a Christian" and why focusing on Christ's finished work is infinitely more powerful than obsessing over demonic tactics. Their profound insight that "churches without power are misrepresenting the blood of Jesus" challenges comfortable Christianity and calls believers back to authentic, transformative faith.

Perhaps most moving is their revelation about what ultimately breaks the power of darkness: "I knew how to fight and start a war with anyone," Adele shares, "but I had no defense against love." This truth forms the foundation of their ministry approach: invitation to encounter and relationship. As she put it, "pray in your prayer closet, but invite them for dinner."

Ready to experience spiritual warfare from a biblical perspective that emphasizes love over fear? Listen now and discover why Jesus has never looked at you wishing you were someone else.

Riaan and Adele's ministry: deliverance4me.org

@riaan_swiegelaar @adele.vrey

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Blood & Oil Podcast is filmed and recorded by Pastor Jesse LaForce and Zane Wheeler in California, with Terrence Theodore on video call from the East Coast. A variety of guests will join us as we discuss modern events through a biblical lens, so buckle up and enjoy the ride. Thanks to all of our supporters, and Praise God for the opportunity to serve Him in this way. We hope you have enjoyed this episode and pray for blessings upon your day.

The divine partnership between God and humanity stands as one of Christianity's most beautiful mysteries. Why would the Creator of everything choose to work through flawed, broken vessels to accomplish His purposes? In this profound conversation, we explore how God invites former enemies into kingdom collaboration.

Using the powerful imagery of the refiner's fire from Malachi, we unpack how sanctification transforms believers into sacred vessels. Just as a silversmith watches carefully until he can see his reflection in the purified metal, God applies heat through life's trials to remove our impurities, always present in the process. The most stunning revelation? Some aspects of God's character can only be discovered in the flames, not apart from them.

We delve into the baptism of the Holy Spirit as a subsequent empowerment distinct from salvation—the divine enablement that equips ordinary people for extraordinary mission. Through biblical examples and contemporary experiences, we demonstrate how spiritual gifts operate according to the Spirit's will rather than human ability. The only requirements? Being willing and available.

Unlike generic spiritual practices, Christianity offers intensely personal divine encounters. God knows your fingerprint, eye pattern, and every hair on your head. He meets you exactly where you are, addressing your specific wounds and circumstances with perfect precision. Your imperfections aren't obstacles—they're opportunities for His power to shine through.

Ready to move beyond spectator Christianity? Start each day with "God, use me today," and prepare to witness how the Creator of galaxies partners with you to build His kingdom in ways that will leave you in awe.

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Blood & Oil Podcast is filmed and recorded by Pastor Jesse LaForce and Zane Wheeler in California, with Terrence Theodore on video call from the East Coast. A variety of guests will join us as we discuss modern events through a biblical lens, so buckle up and enjoy the ride. Thanks to all of our supporters, and Praise God for the opportunity to serve Him in this way. We hope you have enjoyed this episode and pray for blessings upon your day.

Why would a loving God allow evil to exist? This question has troubled seekers and believers for centuries, yet remains uniquely challenging for Christianity compared to other faith traditions. In this thought-provoking episode, we explore theodicy—the problem of evil—from multiple angles that will challenge and deepen your understanding.

The conversation begins by examining why this question specifically targets Christianity rather than other religions. Unlike Islam where Allah authors both good and evil, or dualistic religions with competing powers, Christianity claims a God who is simultaneously all-good, all-powerful, and sovereign—creating an apparent contradiction that demands resolution.

We dive into God's purpose in creation: the desire for genuine relationship based on love. Since real love requires freedom to choose, evil becomes possible—not because God desires love, but because without choice, love would be meaningless. This divine risk created the potential for suffering, but also for authentic connection that mechanical obedience could never achieve.

What sets this discussion apart is our exploration of how self-reliance becomes the greatest barrier to experiencing God's solution to suffering. Through powerful stories and biblical insights, we reveal how surrender and "death to self" become the pathway not just to salvation, but to freedom from evil's grip in our daily lives.

Rather than offering simplistic answers, we acknowledge the tension between intellectual understanding and lived experience. Yet we emphasize what makes Christianity unique: a God who entered our suffering rather than remaining distant from it. Jesus experienced human pain firsthand, transforming how we can face our own struggles with hope.

Whether you're wrestling with personal suffering or intellectual doubts about God's goodness, this episode offers perspective that honors both the mystery and meaning behind life's deepest questions. Join us as we explore how the gospel provides the ultimate answer to evil through the proving of love.

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Blood & Oil Podcast is filmed and recorded by Pastor Jesse LaForce and Zane Wheeler in California, with Terrence Theodore on video call from the East Coast. A variety of guests will join us as we discuss modern events through a biblical lens, so buckle up and enjoy the ride. Thanks to all of our supporters, and Praise God for the opportunity to serve Him in this way. We hope you have enjoyed this episode and pray for blessings upon your day.

What does it mean to live in spiritual victory? Christ won a decisive battle in His death and resurrection, yet many Christians still approach spiritual warfare as if they're fighting for victory rather than from victory.

In this illuminating episode, we unpack the profound implications of Christ's triumph over the demonic realm. The cross wasn't just a historical event—it fundamentally altered the spiritual landscape by disarming the enemy and breaking Satan's legal claim over humanity. Through Christ's blood, believers have been transferred from the domain of darkness into God's kingdom, yet many continue living as though they're still under enemy occupation.

Our conversation reveals why understanding your position in Christ transforms everything about spiritual warfare. Before salvation, we were "children of wrath" under Satan's jurisdiction. Now, seated with Christ in heavenly places, believers possess His authority—not because they've earned it, but because relationship with Christ grants access to it. This distinction between working for victory versus working from victory lies at the heart of living victoriously.

We explore practical questions: Why do many Christians remain vulnerable to spiritual attacks? How does the armor of God actually function? What's the difference between God's permissive and perfect will? And crucially, how does understanding both the cross (which pays for sin) and the resurrection (which breaks death's power) complete our understanding of spiritual triumph?

Whether you're battling spiritual opposition, seeking deeper understanding of your authority in Christ, or simply wanting to live more victoriously, this episode will equip you with biblical insights that elevate your spiritual warfare from striving to standing firm in what Christ has already accomplished.

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Blood & Oil Podcast is filmed and recorded by Pastor Jesse LaForce and Zane Wheeler in California, with Terrence Theodore on video call from the East Coast. A variety of guests will join us as we discuss modern events through a biblical lens, so buckle up and enjoy the ride. Thanks to all of our supporters, and Praise God for the opportunity to serve Him in this way. We hope you have enjoyed this episode and pray for blessings upon your day.

What do persecuted Christians around the world crave most? Not just Bibles, but the ability to gather freely in worship. While Western believers debate whether church attendance really matters, underground believers risk their lives just to meet together. This spiritual disconnect reveals something profound about what's truly at stake.

In this powerful episode, the hosts of Blood and Oil tackle the critical importance of church attendance in an age where individualism has infiltrated Christian thinking. Drawing from Scripture, church history, and contemporary accounts from the persecuted church, they build a compelling case for why gathering isn't optional but essential for spiritual protection and growth.

The conversation explores how collective prayer creates spiritual barriers that demons cannot penetrate—a reality confirmed by former occultists who couldn't enter cities during powerful revival meetings. This spiritual dynamic helps explain why Satan works relentlessly to isolate believers from their church communities. An isolated Christian becomes vulnerable to the escalating deceptions targeting believers in these last days.

Most revealing is their discussion of specific deceptions infiltrating Christian circles today, including the "divine feminine" concept that subtly distorts our understanding of God's nature. The hosts carefully distinguish between essential and non-essential beliefs, providing listeners with crucial discernment tools for navigating increasingly treacherous spiritual waters.

Whether you're a committed church member or someone who's drifted away from regular fellowship, this episode will challenge your thinking and reinvigorate your appreciation for what happens when believers gather. In a world where spiritual warfare intensifies daily, could your church attendance be more consequential than you've realized?

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What happens when the people we're called to love become the hardest to get along with? In this raw, honest conversation about church conflict and unity, we unpack the messy reality of Christian community and offer gospel-centered wisdom for navigating the tensions.

The discussion begins by examining a crucial distinction many believers miss: when is conflict driven by our flesh versus spiritual forces? As we explore this question, we discover that applying the gospel transforms how we respond to being wronged. "No matter what happens in this conflict," Pastor Jesse reflects, "I'm still doing better than I deserve" - a perspective that changes everything about how we approach church relationships.

Pride emerges as the silent destroyer of unity, whether manifesting as self-righteous judgment or victim mentality. The antidote? A gospel that ruthlessly kills self-importance by reminding us that everything we have is a gift. When we truly grasp the grace we've received, extending grace to others becomes not just possible but desirable.

Perhaps most practically, we discuss the oft-forgotten virtue of forbearance - recognizing sin, letting it land, paying the price, and saying nothing. This isn't weakness but Christlike strength that absorbs offense rather than amplifying it. For times when confrontation is necessary, we offer a framework for approaching others with genuine humility rather than accusation.

The conversation concludes with a sobering reminder that how we handle minor conflicts today prepares us for major challenges tomorrow. As persecution of Christians increases globally, loyalty and faithfulness within the body become not just virtues but necessities for survival.

Whether you're currently experiencing church hurt, serving in leadership, or simply wanting to build healthier spiritual relationships, this episode will challenge and equip you to pursue unity that glorifies Christ - not by avoiding conflict, but by handling it with gospel grace.

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Blood & Oil Podcast is filmed and recorded by Pastor Jesse LaForce and Zane Wheeler in California, with Terrence Theodore on video call from the East Coast. A variety of guests will join us as we discuss modern events through a biblical lens, so buckle up and enjoy the ride. Thanks to all of our supporters, and Praise God for the opportunity to serve Him in this way. We hope you have enjoyed this episode and pray for blessings upon your day.

What happens when all your spiritual practices fail to protect your family from darkness? In this riveting testimony, Noel Wheeler takes us on her extraordinary journey from the depths of occult exploration to an undeniable encounter with Jesus Christ.

From nightmares that started at age two to shamanic rituals by nine, Noel's early experiences with the supernatural realm set her on a path of spiritual seeking. Her story takes us through alcoholism, manipulation, and a suicide attempt on the Golden Gate Bridge that was dramatically interrupted by divine intervention. "God, I wish there was something worth living for," she cried in her darkest moment—and received an answer that would change everything.

Despite this powerful experience, Noel's decade-long journey through new age practices—oracle cards, goddess worship, ayahuasca ceremonies, and star seed mythology—brought both spiritual highs and terrifying lows. When crystals and rituals failed to protect her children from spiritual attacks and apparitions, three profound experiences began shifting her perspective: witnessing a dark entity during a ceremony, observing a friend's unshakable faith after losing her child, and meeting a mother who had abandoned the occult for Christ.

The culmination came when Jesus himself appeared during her meditation, touching her shoulder with complete healing power and saying, "Now you may call me by My name." Astonishingly, her husband Zane had his own separate encounter with Christ just days later. Their powerful conversion led them to a church community where their questions were welcomed, not dismissed.

This testimony offers hope to anyone with supernatural experiences or occult involvement, demonstrating that God sovereignly pursues those genuinely seeking truth—even before they know His name. Ready to discover what's really happening in the spiritual realm? Listen now and share your own spiritual journey with us.

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Blood & Oil Podcast is filmed and recorded by Pastor Jesse LaForce and Zane Wheeler in California, with Terrence Theodore on video call from the East Coast. A variety of guests will join us as we discuss modern events through a biblical lens, so buckle up and enjoy the ride. Thanks to all of our supporters, and Praise God for the opportunity to serve Him in this way. We hope you have enjoyed this episode and pray for blessings upon your day.

What happens when the world seems to be falling apart around us? In this deeply insightful episode of Blood and Oil, Pastor Jesse, Zane, and Terrence dive into the biblical perspective on our increasingly chaotic world. Drawing from Matthew 24 and other prophetic scriptures, they identify three critical signs of the end times that are manifesting before our eyes.

The hosts explore how systemic conflict has infiltrated every level of society—from geopolitical tensions surrounding Russia and Ukraine to the cultural divisions tearing apart families over political differences. They reveal how the pandemic created an unprecedented "shared cultural trauma" that accelerated many end-time dynamics predicted in scripture.

The conversation takes a particularly fascinating turn when examining how self-love has become the dominant religion of our age. This self-centeredness directly opposes the Christian calling to "love not your lives even unto death" (Revelation 12:11). The team demonstrates how this obsession with self has even infected churches through teachings about self-forgiveness and self-esteem that contradict biblical principles.

But this isn't just an analysis of darkness—the hosts share a powerful message of hope about "the rise of the mountain of the house of the Lord." They remind believers that God is establishing His Kingdom through His people, even as the world descends into chaos. As Pastor Jesse powerfully states, "The end times are not happening to you—you are happening to the end times."

This episode will strengthen your faith, equip you with biblical understanding, and remove fear by showing you your place in God's unfolding plan. Whether facing personal trials or witnessing global turmoil, you'll discover how to stand unshakable by returning to the fundamentals of knowing God through His Word, fellowshipping in church, and being discipled. Don't miss this timely word for everyone navigating our increasingly uncertain world.

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Blood & Oil Podcast is filmed and recorded by Pastor Jesse LaForce and Zane Wheeler in California, with Terrence Theodore on video call from the East Coast. A variety of guests will join us as we discuss modern events through a biblical lens, so buckle up and enjoy the ride. Thanks to all of our supporters, and Praise God for the opportunity to serve Him in this way. We hope you have enjoyed this episode and pray for blessings upon your day.