What happens when a former Satanist who orchestrated 8,000 witches to curse a woman ends up not only finding Christ but becoming her ministry partner? In this powerful episode of Blood and Oil, we witness one of the most extraordinary testimonies of God's redemptive work as Adele and Riaan share their journey from darkness to light.

Adele Vrey, who spent decades in Satanism before encountering Christ during a failed kidnapping attempt of a pastor's son, wrote a book exposing occult practices in South Africa. Years later, Riaan Swiegelaar—then a spokesperson for the South African Satanic Church—was assigned to discredit her. Through a series of divine appointments, Riaan had his own encounter with Jesus and eventually partnered with the very woman he once considered an enemy.

But this conversation goes far beyond their dramatic conversion stories. With refreshing clarity, they dismantle common misconceptions about spiritual warfare, explaining why "the devil has no legal claim on a Christian" and why focusing on Christ's finished work is infinitely more powerful than obsessing over demonic tactics. Their profound insight that "churches without power are misrepresenting the blood of Jesus" challenges comfortable Christianity and calls believers back to authentic, transformative faith.

Perhaps most moving is their revelation about what ultimately breaks the power of darkness: "I knew how to fight and start a war with anyone," Adele shares, "but I had no defense against love." This truth forms the foundation of their ministry approach: invitation to encounter and relationship. As she put it, "pray in your prayer closet, but invite them for dinner."

Ready to experience spiritual warfare from a biblical perspective that emphasizes love over fear? Listen now and discover why Jesus has never looked at you wishing you were someone else.

Riaan and Adele's ministry: deliverance4me.org

@riaan_swiegelaar @adele.vrey

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Blood & Oil Podcast is filmed and recorded by Pastor Jesse LaForce and Zane Wheeler in California, with Terrence Theodore on video call from the East Coast. A variety of guests will join us as we discuss modern events through a biblical lens, so buckle up and enjoy the ride. Thanks to all of our supporters, and Praise God for the opportunity to serve Him in this way. We hope you have enjoyed this episode and pray for blessings upon your day.

The divine partnership between God and humanity stands as one of Christianity's most beautiful mysteries. Why would the Creator of everything choose to work through flawed, broken vessels to accomplish His purposes? In this profound conversation, we explore how God invites former enemies into kingdom collaboration.

Using the powerful imagery of the refiner's fire from Malachi, we unpack how sanctification transforms believers into sacred vessels. Just as a silversmith watches carefully until he can see his reflection in the purified metal, God applies heat through life's trials to remove our impurities, always present in the process. The most stunning revelation? Some aspects of God's character can only be discovered in the flames, not apart from them.

We delve into the baptism of the Holy Spirit as a subsequent empowerment distinct from salvation—the divine enablement that equips ordinary people for extraordinary mission. Through biblical examples and contemporary experiences, we demonstrate how spiritual gifts operate according to the Spirit's will rather than human ability. The only requirements? Being willing and available.

Unlike generic spiritual practices, Christianity offers intensely personal divine encounters. God knows your fingerprint, eye pattern, and every hair on your head. He meets you exactly where you are, addressing your specific wounds and circumstances with perfect precision. Your imperfections aren't obstacles—they're opportunities for His power to shine through.

Ready to move beyond spectator Christianity? Start each day with "God, use me today," and prepare to witness how the Creator of galaxies partners with you to build His kingdom in ways that will leave you in awe.

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Blood & Oil Podcast is filmed and recorded by Pastor Jesse LaForce and Zane Wheeler in California, with Terrence Theodore on video call from the East Coast. A variety of guests will join us as we discuss modern events through a biblical lens, so buckle up and enjoy the ride. Thanks to all of our supporters, and Praise God for the opportunity to serve Him in this way. We hope you have enjoyed this episode and pray for blessings upon your day.

Why would a loving God allow evil to exist? This question has troubled seekers and believers for centuries, yet remains uniquely challenging for Christianity compared to other faith traditions. In this thought-provoking episode, we explore theodicy—the problem of evil—from multiple angles that will challenge and deepen your understanding.

The conversation begins by examining why this question specifically targets Christianity rather than other religions. Unlike Islam where Allah authors both good and evil, or dualistic religions with competing powers, Christianity claims a God who is simultaneously all-good, all-powerful, and sovereign—creating an apparent contradiction that demands resolution.

We dive into God's purpose in creation: the desire for genuine relationship based on love. Since real love requires freedom to choose, evil becomes possible—not because God desires love, but because without choice, love would be meaningless. This divine risk created the potential for suffering, but also for authentic connection that mechanical obedience could never achieve.

What sets this discussion apart is our exploration of how self-reliance becomes the greatest barrier to experiencing God's solution to suffering. Through powerful stories and biblical insights, we reveal how surrender and "death to self" become the pathway not just to salvation, but to freedom from evil's grip in our daily lives.

Rather than offering simplistic answers, we acknowledge the tension between intellectual understanding and lived experience. Yet we emphasize what makes Christianity unique: a God who entered our suffering rather than remaining distant from it. Jesus experienced human pain firsthand, transforming how we can face our own struggles with hope.

Whether you're wrestling with personal suffering or intellectual doubts about God's goodness, this episode offers perspective that honors both the mystery and meaning behind life's deepest questions. Join us as we explore how the gospel provides the ultimate answer to evil through the proving of love.

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Blood & Oil Podcast is filmed and recorded by Pastor Jesse LaForce and Zane Wheeler in California, with Terrence Theodore on video call from the East Coast. A variety of guests will join us as we discuss modern events through a biblical lens, so buckle up and enjoy the ride. Thanks to all of our supporters, and Praise God for the opportunity to serve Him in this way. We hope you have enjoyed this episode and pray for blessings upon your day.