Purpose isn't one thing. It's two.

And most people spend their entire lives not knowing the difference—which is why they feel stuck, demotivated, or questioning if they're on the right path.

In this raw and revealing episode, Chloe Temple gets brutally honest—she didn't want to record it. At all. With a full plate and saboteurs running wild, every part of her wanted to avoid hitting record. But she did it anyway. And that moment perfectly illustrates the difference between Big "P" Purpose (your unchanging Why) and little "p" purpose (the shifting whys that drive your daily decisions).

You'll discover:

• The crucial difference between Big P Purpose and little p purpose—and why you need both
• How your Big P Purpose is formed by age 18 and becomes the golden thread running through your entire life
• Why Chloe's little p purpose got her to press record today, but her Big P Purpose made her start the podcast in the first place
• The four major benefits of knowing your Why (including why things trigger you so deeply)
• Examples of Big P Purpose statements and what they reveal about who we are at our core
• How little p purposes change throughout your life—from family to health to career—and why that's completely normal
• Why knowing your purpose is the most powerful tool for overcoming your sneaky saboteurs
• The concerning trend: finding purpose is now the third highest use case for generative AI in 2025

Chloe also shares her own Why statement—"to spark change so we can simply be our true selves"—and how it guides everything from major business decisions (including walking away from a multimillion-pound opportunity) to how she shows up on this podcast.

If you've been feeling stuck, questioning whether you're on the right path, or wondering what's really driving you—this episode will help you get clear on both your constant North Star and your evolving motivations.

Mentioned resources:

• FREE 60-Minute Masterclass: How to Find Purpose (without relying on AI) – Thursday 9th October, 9AM BST | 7PM AEST OR 7PM BST | 2PM EDT Register here: https://theleaderthatlasts.kit.com/purpose-event
• How to Stop 15 Sneaky Leadership Saboteurs Blocking Your Potential – Register here: https://www.popprovides.com/leader-that-lasts-event

🎧 Tune in to discover your Big P Purpose and reconnect with what truly drives you.

Connect with Chloe:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-temple/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadershipwithchloe/

Or check out our Leader That Lasts Accelerator: https://www.popprovides.com/accelerator

Who’s really in your corner — and do they even know the role they play?

In this episode, Chloe Temple shares the exact framework she uses to map out the six essential roles every leader needs to thrive. Because success isn't a solo game, no matter how independent you think you are.

You'll discover:

• The four C’s and two W’s framework for building your support crew.
• Why having too many cheerleaders but no challengers can hold you back.
• How to spot role mismatches in your life (and why your partner might not be the best person to give you tough love).
• Why relying on just one person for everything can be a recipe for resentment.
• Tools and examples (yes, including AI tools like ChatGPT) to fill gaps in your support network.

Chloe also opens up about her own transition after losing her full-time team member Nat, and how she’s rethinking support in business and life.

If you’ve been feeling alone in your career journey, stuck, or unsure where to get the right kind of support — this episode will help you rethink who and what you really need.

Mentioned resources:

• Book: Who Not How by Dan Sullivan
• Support Crew Mapping Tool: Download here: https://theleaderthatlasts.kit.com/supportcrew

🎧 Tune in and start intentionally designing the team (and energy) around you.

Connect with Chloe:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-temple/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadershipwithchloe/

Or check out our leader that lasts accelerator: https://www.popprovides.com/accelerator

If you've just returned from summer holidays feeling like you need another break already, or you're currently in pre-holiday cramming mode, this episode is perfectly timed.

Chloe opens up about being a reformed "holiday ninja" who used to obsessively map out the year to maximise time off, negotiate for more holiday days instead of pay rises, and land at 6am to go straight to work. Sound familiar?

But here's the uncomfortable truth: if you're constantly needing to escape your work, the real problem isn't that you need better holidays — it's that you need work you don't need to escape from.

You'll hear:

• Why the "just survive until my holiday" mentality guarantees you'll immediately need another one
• The three drivers of intrinsic motivation that make work feel like play (from Daniel Pink's "Drive")
• How to integrate holiday energy into your normal week instead of living boom-bust cycles
• Why leaders desperately need thinking space (and how over a third admit they don't create it)
• Chloe's new community experiment: weekly "CoThink sessions" for protected thinking time

This isn't about working less or taking fewer holidays. It's about creating work you love and building sustainable recovery into normal life, so holidays become a bonus, not a desperate necessity.

Mentioned resources:

• Daniel Pink's "Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us": https://www.danpink.com/books/drive/
• The Leader that Lasts Community (where we host the Co-Think Sessions): https://www.skool.com/the-leader-that-lasts-9742/about

Connect with Chloe:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-temple/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadershipwithchloe/

Join the thinking space revolution: https://www.skool.com/the-leader-that-lasts-9742/about

Listen now if you're tired of the countdown-to-holiday cycle and ready to build work that energises rather than depletes you.

Ever felt like you were failing more than winning? You’re not alone.

In this raw and honest episode, Chloe opens up about the brutal realities behind her first four years in business — the flops, the rejections, and the moments she almost threw in the towel.

From silent webinars to ghosted LinkedIn DMs, she shares what it really means to build resilience when your self-worth has always been tied to achievement and "getting it right."

You'll learn:

• Why non-attachment is critical if you want to keep going when things flop.
• The power of adaptability and why pivoting faster might save your energy (and sanity).
• How cultivating a growth mindset (à la Carol Dweck and Sarah Blakely’s lessons) is non-negotiable for leaders.
• Why self-compassion is the secret ingredient to bouncing back stronger.

Plus, Chloe shares the real story behind her failed brand experiment ("The Ultimate Offsite") and the small rejections that stung more than the big flops.

If you’ve ever felt knocked down by setbacks or scared of putting yourself out there because of what might not work, this episode will feel like a warm (but firm) hug.

Mentioned resources:

• Carol Dweck’s research on growth mindset
• Sarah Blakely’s childhood failure stories
• Amazon's culture of experimentation

🎧 Listen now and learn to lead yourself through failure rather than letting it define you.

Connect with Chloe:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-temple/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadershipwithchloe/

Or check out our leader that lasts accelerator: https://www.popprovides.com/accelerator

Could AI replace your team — or maybe even you?

After her full-time team member left, Chloe decided not to rush to hire. Instead, she launched a three-month experiment to see how far AI could support her solo.

In this episode, Chloe shares in real time (not after it's all polished) what it feels like to lean into AI tools instead of humans, and the messy emotions that come with it.

You’ll hear:

• What tools Chloe’s testing (and why they might surprise you).
• The difference between using AI to automate vs. abdicate responsibility.
• The hidden risks of using AI as a sneaky new form of procrastination.
• Why embracing AI doesn’t mean giving up your humanity — it might actually help you reclaim it.
• Thoughts on the leaked memos from Shopify and Fiverr CEOs that are changing how teams think about AI today.

This is not a “how to” guide. It’s a behind-the-scenes invitation to watch a recovering perfectionist experiment live, with no guaranteed outcomes.

Mentioned resources:

• Shopify CEO memo on AI
• Fiverr CEO memo on AI
• Steven Bartlett’s “Behind the Diary” episode
• Tools: ChatGPT, Claude, Perplexity, Superhuman, Motion, Descript

🎧 Listen now to explore what it really looks like to lead through tech change and future-proof your own work.

Connect with Chloe:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-temple/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadershipwithchloe/

Or check out our leader that lasts accelerator: https://www.popprovides.com/accelerator

Ever caught yourself questioning if you’re really a leader?

Maybe you’re not managing a team right now. Maybe you’ve never held a big title or sat in a boardroom. Maybe deep down, you feel like a bit of an impostor when you step up, share your voice, or guide others.

In this deeply honest episode, Chloe unpacks what it actually means to lead — and why most of us have it backwards.

She explores:

✨ The hidden trap of “imposter syndrome” (and why the word ‘syndrome’ might be tripping you up)

✨ The powerful difference between managing and leading

✨ Why courage always comes before confidence

✨ Brene Brown’s game-changing definition of leadership

✨ How perfectionism stops us from leading (and why recovering perfectionists might actually be the best leaders)

You’ll also hear personal stories — from Chloe’s own moment of unexpected leadership, sharing her mental health journey at work, to public examples like Greta Thunberg, Malala Yousafzai, and Marcus Rashford — plus micro-moments of quiet leadership you might see in your own life every day.

If you’ve ever waited for someone to give you permission to lead, or doubted your place in the room, this episode is for you.

You don’t need a title. You don’t need a team. You just need to decide.

🎧 Tune in and discover what could shift if you gave yourself permission to lead yourself first — and how that single decision might change everything.

Connect with Chloe:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-temple/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadershipwithchloe/

Or check out our leader that lasts accelerator: https://www.popprovides.com/accelerator

After landing her dream job and feeling unexpectedly empty, Chloe realised she'd never applied strategic thinking to her own life. In this practical episode, she shares the 9-step framework she created that night in Sydney - the same process now used by leaders at major corporations to design careers and lives they actually love.

What You'll Learn:

• Why most people feel unfulfilled even when they "have it all"

• The three fundamental questions everyone needs to answer

• Why starting with "Who am I?" changes everything

• How to set goals that are outcomes, not strategies

• The difference between vision, mission, and why

• Why beliefs are the foundation of the success cycle

• How to build a support crew that actually supports your goals

Key Takeaways:

• Society's goals aren't your goals - get clear on what YOU actually want

• Finding your why requires a partner - we can't see ourselves clearly

• Goals should be outcomes (feel good in my body) not strategies (gym 3x/week)

• Your beliefs create your potential, which drives your actions and results

• Most people have loads of cheerleaders but lack challengers

• Fulfillment is an inside job - external changes won't fix internal misalignment

Resources Mentioned:

• Simon Sinek's "Start With Why" book and TED Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspire_action?language=en

• Strategic plan template https://popprovides.kartra.com/checkout/strategic-life-design-blueprint

Connect with Chloe:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-temple/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadershipwithchloe/

• Download the Strategic Plan Template: https://popprovides.kartra.com/checkout/strategic-life-design-blueprint

Upcoming Episode: What 4 Years of FAILURE Taught Me About Resilience

When Chloe's only full-time team member resigned, it could have been the end. Instead, it became the beginning of something much better. In this honest episode, Chloe shares how losing her key support forced her to confront the uncomfortable truth about her overcomplicated business and how she used this crisis as a catalyst for clarity.

What You'll Learn:

• How to turn unexpected setbacks into strategic opportunities

• Why complexity often masks lack of focus

• The power of pausing instead of immediately reacting

• How to use challenging moments to realign with your vision

• Why "life happens for you, not to you" changes everything

Key Takeaways:

• Trying to serve everyone often means serving no one effectively

• Complexity in business usually signals unclear positioning

• The best time to simplify is when you're forced to step back

• Sometimes losing support shows you what you really need

• Crisis can be the catalyst for the breakthrough you didn't know you needed

Connect with Chloe:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-temple/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadershipwithchloe/

Next Episode: The 9 Steps to Strategically Design a Life & Career You LOVE