Purpose isn't one thing. It's two.

And most people spend their entire lives not knowing the difference—which is why they feel stuck, demotivated, or questioning if they're on the right path.

In this raw and revealing episode, Chloe Temple gets brutally honest—she didn't want to record it. At all. With a full plate and saboteurs running wild, every part of her wanted to avoid hitting record. But she did it anyway. And that moment perfectly illustrates the difference between Big "P" Purpose (your unchanging Why) and little "p" purpose (the shifting whys that drive your daily decisions).

You'll discover:

• The crucial difference between Big P Purpose and little p purpose—and why you need both
• How your Big P Purpose is formed by age 18 and becomes the golden thread running through your entire life
• Why Chloe's little p purpose got her to press record today, but her Big P Purpose made her start the podcast in the first place
• The four major benefits of knowing your Why (including why things trigger you so deeply)
• Examples of Big P Purpose statements and what they reveal about who we are at our core
• How little p purposes change throughout your life—from family to health to career—and why that's completely normal
• Why knowing your purpose is the most powerful tool for overcoming your sneaky saboteurs
• The concerning trend: finding purpose is now the third highest use case for generative AI in 2025

Chloe also shares her own Why statement—"to spark change so we can simply be our true selves"—and how it guides everything from major business decisions (including walking away from a multimillion-pound opportunity) to how she shows up on this podcast.

If you've been feeling stuck, questioning whether you're on the right path, or wondering what's really driving you—this episode will help you get clear on both your constant North Star and your evolving motivations.

Mentioned resources:

• FREE 60-Minute Masterclass: How to Find Purpose (without relying on AI) – Thursday 9th October, 9AM BST | 7PM AEST OR 7PM BST | 2PM EDT Register here: https://theleaderthatlasts.kit.com/purpose-event
• How to Stop 15 Sneaky Leadership Saboteurs Blocking Your Potential – Register here: https://www.popprovides.com/leader-that-lasts-event

🎧 Tune in to discover your Big P Purpose and reconnect with what truly drives you.

Connect with Chloe:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-temple/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadershipwithchloe/

Or check out our Leader That Lasts Accelerator: https://www.popprovides.com/accelerator

Who’s really in your corner — and do they even know the role they play?

In this episode, Chloe Temple shares the exact framework she uses to map out the six essential roles every leader needs to thrive. Because success isn't a solo game, no matter how independent you think you are.

You'll discover:

• The four C’s and two W’s framework for building your support crew.
• Why having too many cheerleaders but no challengers can hold you back.
• How to spot role mismatches in your life (and why your partner might not be the best person to give you tough love).
• Why relying on just one person for everything can be a recipe for resentment.
• Tools and examples (yes, including AI tools like ChatGPT) to fill gaps in your support network.

Chloe also opens up about her own transition after losing her full-time team member Nat, and how she’s rethinking support in business and life.

If you’ve been feeling alone in your career journey, stuck, or unsure where to get the right kind of support — this episode will help you rethink who and what you really need.

Mentioned resources:

• Book: Who Not How by Dan Sullivan
• Support Crew Mapping Tool: Download here: https://theleaderthatlasts.kit.com/supportcrew

🎧 Tune in and start intentionally designing the team (and energy) around you.

Connect with Chloe:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-temple/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadershipwithchloe/

Or check out our leader that lasts accelerator: https://www.popprovides.com/accelerator

If you've just returned from summer holidays feeling like you need another break already, or you're currently in pre-holiday cramming mode, this episode is perfectly timed.

Chloe opens up about being a reformed "holiday ninja" who used to obsessively map out the year to maximise time off, negotiate for more holiday days instead of pay rises, and land at 6am to go straight to work. Sound familiar?

But here's the uncomfortable truth: if you're constantly needing to escape your work, the real problem isn't that you need better holidays — it's that you need work you don't need to escape from.

You'll hear:

• Why the "just survive until my holiday" mentality guarantees you'll immediately need another one
• The three drivers of intrinsic motivation that make work feel like play (from Daniel Pink's "Drive")
• How to integrate holiday energy into your normal week instead of living boom-bust cycles
• Why leaders desperately need thinking space (and how over a third admit they don't create it)
• Chloe's new community experiment: weekly "CoThink sessions" for protected thinking time

This isn't about working less or taking fewer holidays. It's about creating work you love and building sustainable recovery into normal life, so holidays become a bonus, not a desperate necessity.

Mentioned resources:

• Daniel Pink's "Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us": https://www.danpink.com/books/drive/
• The Leader that Lasts Community (where we host the Co-Think Sessions): https://www.skool.com/the-leader-that-lasts-9742/about

Connect with Chloe:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-temple/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leadershipwithchloe/

Join the thinking space revolution: https://www.skool.com/the-leader-that-lasts-9742/about

Listen now if you're tired of the countdown-to-holiday cycle and ready to build work that energises rather than depletes you.