In this episode Vanessa and Carolina get real with what is happening in the U.S. right now. They talk about the realities and risks of being an immigrant in today’s world. They talk Alligator Alcatraz, the Reconciliation Budget, Climate change and defunding of NOAA. Immigrants don’t have the privilege to dissasociate, so we are experts at crisis handling and resilience. They discuss resistance, organizing, and finding resilience and joy while holding the fear at the same time.

Meet your podcast hosts, Carolina Rubio-MacWright and Vanessa Chavarriaga Posada. The two get into their origin stories, how they became runners, and what fuels them to continue fighting for immigrant and climate justice.

Carolina and Vanessa dive into a Mangonada, embracing all of the flavor in one bite. They explain the origins behind their podcast, the importance of telling their own stories, and the beauty and resilience in immigrant communities.

They share their love for being out on the trails and why connection to the outdoors is a necessary part of the worlds they are building.