Most lawyers market by looking around, copying what everyone else is doing, and hoping they can outspend the next firm.

Dan Kennedy thinks that is the fastest way to become invisible.

This is Part 1 of a two-part conversation from the Great Legal Marketing Summit (October 2025), where Ben Glass and Dan Kennedy dig into the core idea that built Ben’s firm in the first place: don’t do what everyone else does.

Ben opens with the story of being a good lawyer who had no clue how to run a business, then getting a long sales letter in the mail for Magnetic Marketing. He almost sent it back. Instead, he listened, tested the ideas, and it changed his whole trajectory.

From there, Dan gets practical and a little ruthless. He breaks down why “all digital everything” turns firms into commodities, why big-budget advertisers are not the real threat you think they are, and why your intake call is not an admin task. It is a sales conversation with someone who does not want to need a lawyer in the first place.

You will hear them talk lead magnets, follow-up systems, and the “invited guest” concept. How to stop chasing prospects and start building a marketing asset that attracts the right people, over and over, without burning your life down trying to keep up with 95 million posts a day.

If you have ever felt like your marketing is loud, expensive, and somehow still not working, this episode will feel like a reset.

Want the full summit notes? Grab them at glmsummitnotes.com.

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Brian Glass is a nationally recognized personal injury lawyer in Fairfax, Virginia. He is passionate about living a life of his own design and looking for answers to solutions outside of the legal field. This podcast is his effort to share that passion with others.

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Most lawyers think “brand” means a logo, a slogan, or some clever line about fighting for justice.

Kia Arian has a different take. In this GLM Summit talk, she starts with a story about being jealous of a squirrel and ends by showing you why your best marketing is not a gimmick. It is the part of you that has been there the whole time. Your story.

Kia breaks down why legal marketing keeps sounding the same, why reviews are not a brand, and why “experienced and compassionate” is basically invisible at this point. Then she walks through real examples of how lawyers uncovered a message that made the right people say, “Yep. That’s my lawyer.”

You will also hear how to stop trying to manufacture momentum in your marketing and instead build a message that feels true, clear, and easy to repeat. The kind that attracts the right-fit clients and quietly repels the tire kickers.

If you want the GLM Summit notes Brian mentions, you can grab them at glmsummitnotes.com

Connect with Kia:
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kiaarian
Company: www.zinemarketing.com
Facebook: www.facebook.com/zinegraphics
X (Twitter): twitter.com/kiaarian_

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Brian Glass is a nationally recognized personal injury lawyer in Fairfax, Virginia. He is passionate about living a life of his own design and looking for answers to solutions outside of the legal field. This podcast is his effort to share that passion with others.

Want to connect with Brian?

Follow Brian on Instagram: @thebrianglass
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Most lawyers say they want to “scale.”

Ryan McKeen has actually done it. The real kind. The kind where you build a firm that can take the punch of an eight year case, fund experts and animations, and still keep the lights on. The kind where a $100 million verdict is not a lottery ticket. It is the result of building the machine behind the scenes.

In this conversation, Ryan tells the story of chasing an eight figure goal when he did not even have a case worth six figures. He talks about what had to change to make that goal even possible, from the team, to the systems, to the way he approached learning trial work. Then he shares the part nobody tells you. Even after the verdict, the case is not “done.” He is still waiting on the appellate ruling, and the clock is ticking at about $9,000 a day in interest.

But the episode is not just a victory lap. It is a behind the scenes look at what it takes to build a firm that can handle big work without falling apart. We talk about why you cannot skip the reps, why “gut feel” is a terrible hiring plan, and why investing in your team is the highest leverage move most law firm owners refuse to make.

Then it gets spicy. Ryan breaks down what private equity is doing in legal, why the middle is going to get squeezed, and what smaller firms need to do to stay strong and stay different. Think local pizza place versus Domino’s, but with your clients and your career on the line.

If you want a clearer path to building a firm that can handle real cases, and still leave room for a real life, this one will hit.

Connect with Ryan

• Best Era: bestera.com
• LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/ryanmckeen

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Brian Glass is a nationally recognized personal injury lawyer in Fairfax, Virginia. He is passionate about living a life of his own design and looking for answers to solutions outside of the legal field. This podcast is his effort to share that passion with others.

Want to connect with Brian?

Follow Brian on Instagram: @thebrianglass
Connect on LinkedIn