In this powerful episode, John Kitchens is joined by Jay Kinder, Al Stasek, and special guest Nick Krem for a high-energy deep dive into the future of real estate, leadership, and personal transformation. From the life-changing impact of getting in the right rooms, to how AI is reshaping efficiency and human potential, this conversation pulls back the curtain on what it takes to thrive in 2025 and beyond.

Nick shares his incredible journey—from call center agent to building an international AI-driven company—and how one mastermind event completely changed the trajectory of his life. The crew also digs into the upcoming Agent to CEO 2024 in Cleveland, why the event is capped for impact, and how transformational experiences—not just tactics—create lifelong growth and relationships.

Whether you’re a team leader navigating AI, an agent trying to break through the noise, or an entrepreneur looking for clarity, this episode will leave you inspired, challenged, and ready to take action.

• Why transformational events matter more than tactical ones

• The magic of Agent to CEO 2024 and why seating is capped at 100

• The importance of being in the right room at the right time

• From 15-hour call center shifts to international entrepreneur

• How one mastermind event in Key West changed everything

• Building the world’s first AI-certified agent and scaling globally

• Why AI callers will soon be more trusted than humans

• How to build a company knowledge base to train AI with your team’s calls, scripts, and culture

• Why efficiency, not effort, will define winning teams in 2025

• The shift from departments to “pancaked” teams led by a Head of Growth and AI-powered systems

• Why 30% of jobs may disappear in the next 18 months—and how to adapt

• The compound effect of simple daily habits

• Nick’s “Perfect Day 2.0” framework for rewiring your brain with AI

• Why growth starts with personal transformation before business scale

• Why AI won’t replace creativity—it will amplify it

• The 95/5 Rule: letting AI take you 95 yards and finishing with your expertise

• How to break away from the flood of AI-generated content

• HoneyBadgerNation.com – Tickets, merch, CHSA/CHBA, Honey Badger of the Month
  StoryBrand by Donald Miller – Framework for guiding clients with clarity

• The Strangest Secret by Earl Nightingale – On the power of thoughts and habits

• Suno.com – AI music generation tool used in Nick’s “Perfect Day 2.0” exercise

• Agent to CEO 2024 (Sept. 24–25 in Cleveland) – Can’t-miss event for Honey Badger Nation

The future belongs to those who can combine vision, leadership, and AI with daily disciplines that create lasting transformation. As Nick Krem put it, “You get what you think about most of the time.”

“AI is exponential technology. Don’t try to outbuild it—focus on adapting.” – Nick Krem

In this special guest episode, John Kitchens joins Donnie Zappia and Joel HusVar of The HusVar Real Estate Team at eXp Realty for a deep, unfiltered conversation on leadership, vision, and scaling in today’s real estate market.

With 10,000+ hours of one-on-one coaching and over 17,000 coaching calls, John shares his full journey—from building market dominance in a small Oklahoma town, to co-founding industry-leading coaching organizations, to making the pivotal decision to join eXp Realty after aligning with its vision and values.

The conversation dives into the three game-changing systems that transformed his business, the lessons from breaking up (and making up) with longtime partner Jay Kinder, and how to lead teams through today’s headwinds. John also explains why AI isn’t a threat to great agents, but a tool that will accelerate those willing to adapt.

From Small Town to Industry Impact

• How John built over 20% market share in Lawton, Oklahoma.

• The power of branding and healthy competition.

The Breakup, the Lessons, the Rebuild

• Why a lack of vision caused a major split with Jay Kinder.

• How clarity and leadership brought them back together.

Three Systems That Changed Everything

1. Strategic Planning – The discipline of 90-day cycles using Rockefeller Habits and EOS.

2. CHSA (Certified Home Selling Advisor) – A scalable, repeatable system for listings.

3. Financial Clarity – The five business numbers that matter most from Simple Numbers.

Why eXp Realty

• The behind-the-scenes story of meeting Glenn Sanford and Jason Gesing.

• How vision, core values, and sustainability convinced him to join.

AI, Consumers, and the Future of Agents

• How AI will transform the agent-client dynamic.

• The coming rise of the “AI consumer” and how to stay ahead.

Leadership in Headwinds

• Why the team that got you here may not get you there.

• How to evaluate whether your current team can win in this market.

• Scaling Up by Verne Harnish

• Simple Numbers, Straight Talk, Big Profits by Greg Crabtree

• The AI-Driven Leader by Jeff Woods

• CHSA & CHBA Certification Programs

• Honey Badger Nation

“We’re wired to solve problems. If your goal isn’t big enough, you’ll stop growing.” – John Kitchens

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In this powerful conversation, John Kitchens sits down with real estate professional Renee Velasquez to discuss one of the most challenging — and overlooked — aspects of the industry: guiding families through the sale of a home during major life transitions, especially when caring for aging loved ones.

Drawing from her own deeply personal experience and years of client work, Renee breaks down the emotional, legal, and logistical hurdles that families face, from probate pitfalls to the delicate “right-sizing” conversation. You’ll learn how to prepare clients before crisis hits, build a trusted network of attorneys and service providers, and serve with empathy while still leading decisively.

Whether you’re an agent looking to better serve this growing market or a family member navigating these waters yourself, this episode is a must-listen.

The Emotional Landscape of Families in Transition

• How emotions override logic in real estate decisions during difficult times

• Understanding the “brokenhearted, disgruntled, and disinterested” client types
  
  

Legal & Financial Essentials

• Why wills alone aren’t enough to avoid probate — and the one document that can save months of stress

• The critical role of estate, trust, and probate attorneys — and how to build a referral network

• Common mistakes families make when transferring property
  
  

Right-Sizing & Housing Options

• Why Renee avoids the term “downsizing” and what “right-sizing” really means

• Exploring ranch homes, condos, multi-generational housing, assisted living, and memory care facilities

• How reverse mortgages can be a viable solution for funding care needs
  
  

Practical Solutions for Overwhelmed Families

• Handling a home full of possessions: storage, donation, selling, or “as-is” sales

• The benefits of packaging a home sale for buyers willing to purchase with contents included

• How to lead group decision-making when multiple heirs are involved
  
  

Agent Leadership & Empathy

• The balance between compassion and strong leadership in emotional transactions

• When to refer the listing to another agent (and how to co-list)

• Building lifetime relationships by guiding clients through one of the hardest seasons of their lives

• Connect with Renee Velasquez: Facebook, Instagram, Email: renee@thersvpgroup.com, Call/Text: (330) 321-3339

• HoneyBadgerNation.com – Events, merch, training, and resources for top agents

• StoryBrand by Donald Miller – Framework for positioning as a guide, not the hero

• CHSA/CHBA Systems – Increase perceived value and authority in every deal

"Comparison is the thief of joy, and I stopped comparing my business to everyone else’s." – Renee Velasquez

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