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In this episode, we get lots of little sweet moments between Tamlin and Feyre where they talk about Calanmai, make up after their little fight, have some good discussions with Alis and of course the classic scene where Feyre shows Tamlin her paintings. We talk a lot about the nature of this relationship and the dynamics knowing what we know. We find a lot of interesting “tells” that a first time reader might skip right over. It’s a fun one!

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Episode Overview:

00:00–Intro song, episode intro and summary

01:01–she hornyyy

02:56–the love scenes in the romance book are a little cringe? (It’s a sign!)

002:22–unbothered sniffing

6:01–Does Tamlin think she just left her room or does he know she actually left the house?

07:39–Tamlin just automatically expects 100% obedience all the time

08:19–Tamlin out here just taking 0 accountability for his actions! & power/consent discussion

15:54–Tamlin & Feyre making up and back to romance

16:12–Tamlin gives her death roses!

18:07–What’s up with Alis??25:55–Lucien being an obvious wingman lol

26:37–CC mention! (Did Dannika put her sword in the other dimension??

28:13–The opposite of a mate bond?

29:49–Tamlin feeling better after not working with Hybern anymore

30:43–Feyre being a “beauty” or not

31:26–Feyre imagining more intimacy than Tamlin ever gives her lol

33:15–Feyre’s feeling safe and comfy with Tamlin

35:09–Tamlin being SHOOK that she has a boundary

35:09–”ribbons”

37:06–Feyre knows 4 people in the house and she trusts NONE of em

37:52–Does Tamlin get human wine for Feyre? She can’t be drinking fae wine…?

40:39–Suriel mention–High Lords were power

42:40–A gift for Tamlin not killing her!

43:34–Tamlin, High Lord of Spring, wants the winter painting??

44:59–Tamlin’s the “only” one who can do anything? & Tamlin keeping her wanting more

48:58–Feyre’s dream will become her prison

50:05–Even in his book Tamlin is already showing signs of not being right for her (she’s already showing her true High Lady colors and he’s already rejecting it)

58:47–Tamlin fucked the current Adarlan princess??

1:01:35–Next week, closing & outro song

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This week's ep is a bit longer than usual but we had lots of fascinating discussion about these early moments of Tamlin and Feyre's relationship! We start off by talking about Tamlin needing to clean up the gallery (did he rage-mode trash it??) and then discuss the paintings and Feyre maybe seeing more in them than she should? A bit later we get into a longer discussion of this really interesting part of the chapter where she'd been talking about the abundant magic of the Spring Court as "the lulling of magic that clouded my thoughts, and I didn't think of my family until I passed the outer hedge wall one morning..."A breeze from the south ruffled my hair (p170) Almost sounds like she went just outside the bounds of a spell maybe? Suddenly her head cleared and she remembered her family? It could justbe a moment where she was reminded of them and felt suddenly guilty but we we fascinated. That discussion begins at 28:10!

The rest of the ep goes into the interactions with Tamlin and Feyre and their conversation and beginnings of intimacy as well as some of Tamlin's backstory and his "treat yourself" life mantra lol. The chapter ends with the Attor moment and we went off the deep end there because what if the Attor had said something about the terms of the curse directly? Would he then have been prevented from doing so by the curse and through that be tipped off about Feyre being there? Maybe things were much more precarious than we thought! Second of all, we went nuts because Feyre describes the attor's voice like as: "the screaming of human victims, the pleading of young maidens whose chests had been split open on sacrificial altars" (p181) Okay maybe it's just to be scary and set the tone/stakes of what's happening but also THAT'S WIERDLY SPECIFIC?? We had fun with it. That starts at 1:39:05!

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Episode Overview:

00:00–Intro song, episode intro and summary

2:17–Tamlin acting like he’s the one doing the cleaning?

3:04–What’s he even gotta clean up? (Also movie connections!)

8:29–Who USED to appreciate the art?

9:35–Painter has eyes like Feyre?? With Fae eyes?

13:07–No actually, is she seeing past a glamour to see those paintings?

15:39–“in that animalistic way”

17:36–Feyre does NOT have ADHD

18:19–Tamlin making dreams come true

20:04–More evidence that Feyre is a bad artist lol

20:47–She’s doing what the Suriel said–not asking questions

23:07–We all fell for Tamlin anyway!

24:31–Rhys mention!! Stay with the high lord

28:10–Did Tamlin put a spell on Feyre to make her forget her family!?

33:20–Feyre’s current Maslow’s Hierarchy tier!

35:39–Feyre’s whirlwind grief spiral

40:58–Tamlin and Lucien ditch her when she’s sad (they’re used to walking on eggshells with Tamlin)

42:30–Tamlin’s mantra: Treat yourself, girl!

45:12–Palm kiss? He for SURE smelling her..excitement…

47:48–Tamlin’s fascinated by her human joy? (like us with dogs)

53:13–Feyre’s cartoon trap and Tamlin’s purring

56:40–the poem!

1:01:30–Why’s Tamlin blushing??

1:03:05–What were Tamlin’s brothers??

1:05:20–Tamlin’s war band? & his relationship with Amarantha

1:10:35–Tamlin’s story is SUS

1:20:53–They relate because they are BOTH the beast!

1:24:00–Humans have forgotten the names of Fae gods

1:26:46–the Attor!

1:28:09–The attor almost found out?

1:30:46–What “terms” was Tamlin trying to break?

1:37:38–Hell or Hel in Prythian?

1:39:05–What did she hear?

1:43:50–Tamlin’s real sure the Attor didn’t see her?

1:46:59–The spring breeze whispered she didn’t want to know??

1:51:01–Closing & outro song

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**All our episodes may contain SPOILERS for all three Maasverse series so please only listen if you've read ALL the books!**

This episode has continuation of some of our discussion from our Episode 11 theory about Lucien possibly trying to get Tamlin to ally with Hybern in this book (which is obviously the start of the relationship for ACOMAF). That theory is discussed in full (chapter where we discuss the theory is noted) in that episode available here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/14kng4pMWBGFZ2sELNH77O?si=-BC5VoU0T0KMmHSUSePwRQ

In this episode, we go over ACOTAR Chapter 18! This is a sweet little chapter that kind of kicks off the romance and has lots of interesting moments between Feyre and Tamlin and Lucien and lots of cool backstory too. We theorize about where the starlight pool came from, why it’s in the Spring Court, why Lucien laughs when Tamlin is talking about how it’s just a glen and the different instincts Feyre has internally about the place. This is also where we get Lucien’s backstory and Feyre’s dad’s story too!

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Episode Overview:

00:00–Intro song, episode intro and summary

01:58–The predicted “betrayal” for ACOTAR 6 may or may not be verified

03:50–Feyre needs to “repair what [she] had ruined”??

07:00–Why Feyre is finally settling in!

07:48–”Border patrol” (more of our Lucien theory from Ep 11 linked above!)

14:25–His meeting was cancelled? Who the hell are they meeting with??

16:41–Why does this glen “just feel right” to Feyre??

20:25–Lucien had to make Tamlin sit by Feyre because he was too nervous!

21:46–Why are they so sus about what this glen is?? Plus comparing unhinged theories lol

26:44–Eris & Azriel tangent (and more betrayal discussion)

30:29–Agonizing over not having an announcement for ACOTAR 6 (this was recorded before THAT instagram post lol

33:53–Tamlin “fits” perfectly at the Spring Court starlight pool?

34:57–Feyre’s getting sassy now

35:44–What would other people ask the Suriel? (Stay with the “high” lady!)

38:20–Feyre’s hands “slacken” when she sees the pool

39:55–Is it weird that she immediately guessed it was starlight??

40:54–No one knows what’s up with the pool??

48:36–“According to YOUR legends”

50:03–Tamlin ditching Feyre (SUCH a fuckboy move)

51:27–She’s not comfortable with him!

52:54–Lucien’s backstory! & Vanserra birth order tangent

1:06:35–Drinking the starlight pool means you’ll be happy for the rest of your life?

1:07:45–They’re getting flirtyyy

1:08:06–Evidence for Feyre being a terrible artist!

1:09:26–Don’t cut your bluebells!

1:11:20–More discomfort with our boy Tam

1:13:42–Tamlin pretending to learn about Feyre for the first time (Prince of Merchants/dad backstory conversation!--yes, they’re descended from Captain Rolfe)

1:18:10–More support for the Archeron parents being nameless theory!

1:19:25–Where TF is Bharat?

1:20:05–We’re down for Lucien/Azriel why choose for ACOTAR 6!

1:21:15–Az & Eris! Oh the holiday dinners if they were a thing lol

1:23:03–Feyre taught herself to swim??

1:24:20–What things did Feyre tell Tamlin?

1:29:15–Significance of her first shot being for the Suriel!?

1:31:02–Does Lucien trust Feyre because she’s nice to lesser fae and his girlfriend was lesser fae?

1:32:36–This is why you can trust Lucien

1:35:58–Rhys/Feyre endgame theory tangent

1:37:14–Closing & outro song

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In this episode, we dive into the chapter where the blue Summer Court Faerie has been dumped on the Spring border and Feyre and Tamlin rush and sadly fail to save him. This chapter is fascinating for how it breaks the characters from their normal interactions and has lots of really interesting moments between Tamlin and Feyre. We discuss Lucien’s reaction as he runs out of the room, the roots of the prayer and possible ties to the multiverse, Feyre’s regret, and Tamlin’s need to bury the faerie himself. We note this chapter as a shift in the relationship because the next chapter is the starlight pool and things really heat up from here.

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Episode Overview:

00:00–Intro song, episode intro and summary

01:44–Feyre’s blood protects her against Amarantha! Is this because her parents are nameless?

03:38–Is Amarantha actually trying to get Rhys’ real name in Feyre’s dream?

06:10–What made Amarantha seek out Clare? Was she onto Rhys?

09:29–Names and Fae discussion (here and in mythology)

11:46–Tamlin and his darting eyes are sus

14:18–Feyre realizing the blight is a big deal to everyone

15:32–How big is this chapter in the scope of the story?

17:33–The Living Death in ACOTAR! Is Amarantha an Asteri???

17:44–Illyrian origins confusion tangent lol about Hel/Daglan

20:05–What even is Rhys actually?

21:56–Who tf is the ancestor that created Velaris??

22:16–Is Velaris actually…bad?

23:07–Are the Sacred Mountains sacred because they are a gate? (yes lol)

23:31–Cassian theories!

24:41–Why do Azriel and Cassian both have 7 siphons? Is this Fate? Did Fate pair 3 sisters who balance each other with 3 “brothers” who also balance each other?

26:21–No way Azriel is actually pining over Mor for 500 years (us being joking haters on certain shippers!)

29:27–Back to the Living Death after our tangent lol (and wing discussion)

32:22–Feyre helping because she’s already on High Lady shit

33:31–Lucien’s got PTSD and his eye doing weird stuff (& tangent about his lover possibly experiencing the Living Death before because Autumn is connected to Crescent City)

37:28–Is the prayer what Aelin sings for Nehemia? (and more mythology/Abrahamic connections & discussion)

41:12–Why does Feyre think the prayer is “probably older than the mortal realm”? Why so strangely specific?s

41:59–Afterlife discussion–same for all three series? (Also both Bryce AND Elena gave up their immortal afterlife–we get a lil confused here haha)

45:43–Tamlin hears a clock and grips her shoulder?

46:16–Tamlin hopeless against fate?

47:10–He’s already shutting her out “for her protection” & Rhys comparison

50:03–Feyre’s regret (and this makes Tamlin realize she’s the one who could break the curse!)

51:49–Is this the moment Tamlin decides to lock in and seduce her to try and break the curse?

53:59–Tamlin not looking back (Lot’s wife tangent)

57:38 –Closing & outro song

In this ep we dive into the quieter ACOTAR Chapter 16 with lots of conversations! Tamlin and Feyre debrief after the Suriel/Naga experience and we discuss the first inklings and clues about the romance, how Tamlin is starting some moves and what he's really thinking! Why does Tamlin talk like he knows Feyre's dad? Is this the turning point where he finally decides to go for it (instead of Lucien's plan according to our theory)?!?

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Intro/Closing Music Credit: Indie-Pop by Ivan Luzan

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Episode Overview:

00:00–Intro song, episode intro and summary

1:59–Feyre asking more questions after literally just saying she wouldn’t lol

2:48–More Lucien Hybern theory support

4:35–Alis is stern!

7:17–Alis is always sneakin by

13:23–Feyre’s instincts

13:57–Aging as a fae!

15:56–Alis sass

23:16–Alis wants her to go back to the Suriel?

25:05–Finally finding out faeries can lie

31:59–“I could feel the truth in my bones”! & High Lord power discussion (what does Tamlin recognize in her??)

34:57–Tamlin realizing he doesn’t have to follow Lucien’s Hubert advice?

38:25–Tamlin doesn’t care about her safety!

42:01–Tamlin makes her feel claustrophobic

42:46–Tamlin’s narcissistic tendencies

44:54–Tamlin’s fuckboy morality!

50:14–They never “willingly lied”

53:15–“YES HE WOULD HAVE” ?!?!??

58:08–Why do they live on that little part at the bottom of Prythian??

59:43–She’s finally free!

01:08:30–dick move!

01:09:45–What needs “cleaning up” in the gallery?

01:11:41–Ready for the smutttt

01:13:18–Wrap up and closing

In this week's episode, we get into the scene with the Naga! Lots of really interesting description and potential for crossover here and we get into it all! Who is the Dark Mother? What are the Naga? And what do they want with the Suriel??

**All our episodes may contain SPOILERS for all three Maasverse series so please only listen if you've read ALL the books!**

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Episode Overview:

00:00–Intro song, episode intro and summary

01:02–Description of naga (Are they ridderak? Something else?)

02:57–Who is the Dark Mother??

05:24–The SURIEL is the “gift” sent by the Dark Mother and Feyre is just the meal!

06:31–Kaltain is the Suriel theory and discussion about what the Suriel is/how it’s made/born, etc

08:01–What powers do Suriel actually have? Is their power “truth”? Is Mor a Suriel?? (Game of Thrones spoilers lol?)

09:45–Is the Dark Mother just Amarantha? Plus, Amarantha name discussion

12:33–Feyre seeing the “real” enemies already

13:19–Three-faced goddess vs Dark Mother vs The Mother discussion

14:51–What is the Suriel’s “dark wind” power? Connections to Lorcan, Rhys, or Hunt?

19:08–Feyre hesitating to kill because she doesn’t want to get extra trapped in the Treaty lol

19:57–Thorns imagery

20:28–Losing the Suriel COST the Naga greatly! What does it mean??

27:05–Lydia?? Lol. And deer/wolf imagery discussion

29:20–Starborn power? “A white hot flame”

31:26–”Not like this” (Is this Rhys in her head??)

33:33–Tamlin saving her!

34:23–When does Tamlin begin to care about her?

37:25–Feyre’s aversion to Tamlin

37:48–Healing powers

39:21–Narcissist and why Feyre makes sense being 19

42:35–Why should she have guessed he’s a High Lord?

44:46–Theme of home

47:27–Feyre already seeing the bigger picture

52:13–Tamlin and Amarantha mates discussion

55:27–Rhys valg discussion

57:56–Closing and outro song

**ACOTAR SPOILERS** In this episode, we discuss Feyre’s first meeting with the Suriel! We start with an opening question about what we would ask the Suriel about the Maasverse and then we tear the scene apart. What does it mean that the Suriel is “older than the bones of this world”? Why does Feyre differentiate between her and the part of her that is “human” here? Is Feyre seeing through glamours a bit more because people were trying to stop her? We also see some foreshadowing (hindsight is 20/20) of her being bored/trapped in the Spring Court already. Then we discuss the Kaltain theory, the High Lord’s power and the Suriel’s power (is it “truth”?) and who does the Suriel consider his “brethren”? Which family is the Suriel talking about and did he really mean Rhys or did he just kinda go with it when he sees her in ACOMAF lol. We end with a discussion about what kind of purpose the naga would have for the Suriel as we look to next week’s Chapter 15 discussion.

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Intro/Closing Music Credit: Indie-Pop by Ivan Luzan

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Episode Overview:

00:00–Intro song, episode intro and summary

00:30–Opening question: What would you ask the Suriel about the Maasverse??

01:57–Is Azrael mateless?

02:30–Nesta made her own mate bond (and general mates discussion)

05:12–Aedion tangent (yes a tangent before we even begin discussing the chapter@)

06:36–No one stopped Feyre from carrying a dead chicken around the manor

08:56–What does Lucien think the Suriel can do to help (because why does he let her go?)

09:35–If Feyre knew about the curse, would she have been able to make herself fall in love to break it?

12:01–Feyre can feel the magic of the ancient forest “in her bones”

13:24–Only the “human part” of Feyre is afraid right now (what other part is there??!)

14:20–Feyre has interesting instincts about the “High Lord’s Consort”

16:37–She’s already bored of the Spring Court

19:03–She feels trapped too!

20:06–Rhys’ twisted xray vision tangent

21:00–Discussion about the “ripple of silence” that precedes the Suriel24:12–Suriel vs reapers from CC

24:32–Suriel is burned…like Kaltain was?

26:14–The FIRST watery bowels mention!

27:33–The Suriel and the color white

27:48–The Suriel on her influencer grind!

28:22–The Suriel’s voice?

29:48–Who does the Suriel mean when it says “my brethren”?

30:44–Why does everyone know Feyre’s mom better than her??

31:10–Is the Suriel saying her actual family or her future found family will die if she doesn’t stay with the High Lord?

32:15–Is the Suriel’s power “truth”? Seeing fate or multiple timelines? How he know stuff??

34:06–The High Lords ARE power discussion

35:59–The Suriel is “older than the bones of this world”

36:58–Did the Suriel actually, really mean Rhys…? Did he just “go with it” lol

39:29–Even the Suriel knows she’s trapped with TamTam

40:03–Suriel straight up tells her to watch out for Hybern

41:54–Back on our Lucien suspicions (we’re sad about it tho lol)--yes this one is OUT there

47:22–Suriel is afraid to be caged because it’s actually Kaltain!

49:36–What will the naga “use” the Suriel for?

51:20–Closing and outro song