• Outcome Attachments & Meaning Machines #acim
    Dec 19 2025
    Discussion on Perception and Love Leila Fung shared a revelation from a previous text about realizing that they and Jared were viewing situations through a lens of annoyance or upset, though Leila Fung had "no anger" toward Jevon Perra’s family. Jevon Perra noted the many layers of perception where individuals make things as they think they are, leading to stress and anger. Leila Fung stated they were hoping to be authentically loving, with everything that comes out of them being love.Jevon Perra's Business Transition and Marketing Challenges Jevon Perra discussed their slow transition in a new business venture due to not being able to use mass marketing for bridge loans because of new website and email. They explained that mass marketing with a new email address can lead to being flagged as spam, necessitating manual texting, calling, and one-by-one emailing. Jevon Perra also mentioned being careful about communication to manage industry gossip that might get back to "Bob" to maintain a good working relationship.Focus on Shared Interests and Reducing Suffering Leila Fung shared that their focus while reading and learning would be repairing their relationship with their sister-in-law by viewing everything through a "mutual shared interest" lens. Soo Kim related to this, noting that at month-end, they perceive anyone taking them away from their production list as an "enemy" (00:06:12). Jevon Perra discussed that the function of teachers of God is to save time, and this time saving comes from letting go of attachments and allowing a non-dual perception of forgiveness which saves "thousands of years of suffering" (00:08:39).The Role of the Teacher of God The group began reading Chapter 1 of the Manual for Teachers, titled "Who are God's teachers?". Soo Kim read that a teacher of God is anyone who chooses to be one and whose only qualification is that they have chosen to not see their interests as apart from someone else's (00:02:36). Jevon Perra clarified that the language used in the text is masculine due to the original template, but the concepts are general, emphasizing that seeing interests as the same is a characteristic of the teacher (00:03:41).The Universal Course and Salvation Soo Kim continued reading, noting that teachers of God come from all over the world and religions and that their function is to save time, with each one saving "a thousand years of time" (00:07:33). They read that the central theme of the universal course is that "God's son is guiltless and in his innocence in is his salvation" (00:11:26). Jevon Perra reiterated that seeing others as guiltless makes the perceiver feel free because their perception of the other is their experience of life, which is supported by the example of people being overly friendly to them when they walk around with a puppy (00:12:46).Shift in Perspective with Brokers Jevon Perra shared a personal story about changing their negative perception and resistance toward constant phone calls from brokers after realizing the brokers were calling because they had the wrong, old email address (00:16:19). Jevon Perra explained that answering the calls led to enjoyable conversations and resulted in making deals that wouldn't have happened otherwise because the inexperienced brokers would not have known how to email the correct information (00:17:13). Jevon Perra connected this to the concept of guiltlessness and common interest, stating, "We both want to close loans" (00:18:05).Interrupting Attachments and Control Soo Kim expressed difficulty applying Jevon Perra's experience to their own situation, where interruptions from loan officers felt like an attack, particularly because interruptions lead to missed details in their job. Jevon Perra highlighted that the suffering comes from the attachment to getting things done, not the task itself, and that one can decline calls without resistance and judgment (00:19:58). Soo Kim admitted that their attitude of preventing interruptions might be an "illusion of control" (00:22:22).Leila Fung's Relational Striving and Projection Leila Fung brought up Jared, their partner, taking responsibility for family issues, allowing them to let go of control, and considered whether this meeting could help him (00:23:33). Leila Fung then discussed their struggle with striving for a relationship with their sister-in-law, who exhibits lack of communication and effort, particularly regarding a Christmas breakfast (00:27:13). Leila Fung stated they feel hurt and unprioritized due to their sister-in-law's actions, contrasting it with the effort Leila Fung feels they put in (00:30:52).Discussion on Meaning and Resistance Jevon Perra responded to Leila Fung by explaining that the suffering comes from the meaning they are putting on the situation, not the situation itself, which is neutral (00:29:36) (00:35:14). Leila Fung identified their core meaning as, "I understand. She's not prioritizing me is the story that I'm telling myself and ...
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  • Ego Listening Is What Hurts - ACIM
    Dec 15 2025

    Ego Listening Is What Hurts - #ACIM

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  • You're never stuck. There's another way. ACIM
    Dec 12 2025
    Jevon Perra introduced A Course in Miracles Lesson 33, highlighting the exercise of shifting perception to resolve inner disturbance, illustrating this with a personal experience where changing their viewpoint dramatically improved a previously negative experience. Soo Kim presented a workplace conflict where their sarcastic and unauthentic response to a coworker stemmed from stress and prioritizing their workload, questioning the difference between authenticity and perception, to which Jevon Perra responded that authenticity often acts as a limiting filter that causes distress when faced with differing contextual roles. Jevon Perra then used Byron Katie's "Work" to address Soo Kim’s underlying belief of "not enough time," helping Soo Kim realize that this belief caused feelings of incompetence and outward projections, concluding that releasing this idea allows for kindness and trust that necessary tasks will be completed.Course in Miracles: Lesson 33 Jevon Perra introduced Lesson 33 of A Course in Miracles workbook, "There is another way of looking at the world," and noted that they were also making lunch and chai. They described the exercise as involving five minutes in the morning and evening, alternating between casual surveying of outer perceptions and inner thoughts, while maintaining detachment and repeating the idea throughout the day (00:18:20). Perra emphasized the importance of applying the idea immediately when feeling disturbed, saying, "There's another way of looking at this" (00:20:05).Personal Experience with Shifting Perception Jevon Perra shared a personal story about moving to Missouri in their 20s, believing it was what God wanted based on their grandparents' conviction, which resulted in them being depressed for three years (00:20:05). They recounted returning years later, running their own ministry in the same place with the same people and activities, yet having a vastly better experience because they viewed it as their choice and an adventure, illustrating that the difference was their perception (00:23:59). Perra concluded that anytime someone is disturbed, it is because of the way they are looking at the situation, often perceiving it as a jail, while they are simultaneously the jail, jailer, key, and prisoner (00:25:05).Dealing with Workplace Conflict and Authenticity Soo Kim discussed a recent work situation where a coworker, an account manager, came to them, an underwriter, for help with a broker who was not understanding an explanation (00:25:05). Soo Kim admitted that their immediate, unauthentic response was to sarcastically offer to trade jobs, which reflected their tendency to be direct and prioritize their own quota of underwriting six new loans that day while also being stressed from finals (00:26:38) (00:34:54). Soo Kim questioned the difference between "authentic" behavior and perception, noting that they were still bothered by the interaction 24 hours later (00:27:47).Perception Versus Authenticity Jevon Perra challenged Soo Kim's use of the word "authentic," suggesting that it presupposes a single, rigid way of being, whereas Perra had focused on their perception and engagement with a situation (00:27:47). Perra pointed out that viewing one's "authentic self" as rigid means any different engagement against that authentic identity would lead to distress (00:29:09). Perra argued that in a work context, an authentic self is just another filter, and internal distress arises from contextualizing a role (like dealing with sales-oriented brokers) as wrong or against what one should be doing (00:30:32).Change in Work Perception Jevon Perra noted their own experience, where they quit a job and started their own business in the same office, doing the same deals and having the same conversations, but with a different perception. Specifically, they hated talking to brokers as an underwriter because they wanted data, not stories, but now, as an originator needing to close deals to survive, Perra answers every call and is willing to hear their stories, finding it interesting even if it feels like a waste of time (00:31:39). Perra highlighted that their goal shifted, and their patience increased immensely simply by putting on a different role, demonstrating that the change was internal perception, not the external situation (00:44:16).Managing Disturbance and Time Constraints Soo Kim reiterated that they maintained their boundary with the account executive, informing them, "I am not a therapist and we are not running a charity," because they have a quota to meet and talking about problems is not their job (00:33:42). Jevon Perra clarified that doing one's job and being disturbed are different, emphasizing that the disturbance is internal resistance to the world as it shows up (00:36:23). Perra identified the internal resistance as the commitment to a belief, such as "I don't have enough time" (00:38:20) (00:46:35).The Work of Byron Katie Applied to "Not Enough Time" Jevon ...
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  • Fear or Love talk with Denise at newparadigmoflove.org
    Dec 3 2025
    Fear or Love talk with Denise at newparadigmoflove.orgJevon Perra opened the discussion by establishing that miracles have no order of difficulty and are shifts in perspective from fear to love, as defined by Denise Darlene, who also explained that healthy boundaries are rooted in self-sovereignty and clarity and not fear-based, addressing a question from Soo Kim about the divine feminine and boundaries. Denise Darlene introduced trust and honesty as the first two characteristics of "God's teachers," shared details of her marriage with Joe where she offered 100% freedom and non-attachment, and suggested a healing process for triggers, which was relevant to kristen who shared they were undergoing cancer treatment and experiencing intense fear; finally, Jevon Perra announced they were quitting their job, which Denise Darlene, Leila Fung, and kristen supported.Principles of Miracles and Order of Difficulty Jevon Perra opened the discussion by reading a passage from A Course in Miracles emphasizing that there is no order of difficulty in miracles, and all expressions of love are maximal, while the source of miracles is what truly matters (00:00:00). Denise Darlene defined a miracle as a shift in perspective from fear to love, which can be consciously chosen by seeking a loving meaning in events (00:01:35). Jevon Perra shared a personal anecdote about a challenging trip to Costa Rica where they realized that obstacles could be viewed as opportunities for adventure rather than battles (00:02:58).Choosing Meaning and Perception Jevon Perra concluded that everyone is the "meaning machine," choosing between a fearful, angry story or a loving, fun story for any given circumstance (00:05:21). They connected the idea of miracles occurring naturally as expressions of love, where the real miracle is the inspiring love itself (00:06:26). Jevon Perra emphasized that choosing love is a simple choice, not something that requires achievement or external criteria, asking why anyone would choose "crazy" instead of that peaceful, loving state (00:07:53).Presence and Fear Denise Darlene asserted that being present in the moment is key to making loving choices, as fear is typically about the future or past interpretations (00:09:00). Soo Kim showed an oracle card from A Course in Miracles that speaks to the idea that everything that happens is gently planned for one's highest good, which can shift a state of fear (00:10:18). Jevon Perra reflected on how previous difficult life events, like moving to Missouri and leaving Fresno, ultimately led to a wonderful current relationship, suggesting that perhaps everything happening is the best thing possible (00:13:38) (00:15:22).Intimate Connection and Self-Reflection Jevon Perra shared how being open and engaging with everyone during their trip to Costa Rica led to wonderful intimate connections and gifts, concluding that the main difference in the experience was themself (00:15:22). They questioned if they were truly creating their own heaven or hell regardless of external circumstances (00:17:31).Divine Feminine, Boundaries, and Love Soo Kim raised a question about the distinction between the divine feminine, which extends love, and the profane feminine, which might allow being "walked all over," particularly concerning setting boundaries without enabling others (00:17:31). Denise Darlene responded that boundaries are natural when one is in a state of love and peace, contrasting this with fear-based boundary setting (00:20:34). Denise Darlene emphasized that healthy boundaries are rooted in self-sovereignty and clarity, and the other person does not have to agree (00:21:44).Trust and Honesty as Characteristics of God's Teachers Denise Darlene introduced the first two characteristics of "God's teachers" from the manual of A Course in Miracles: trust, followed by honesty (00:23:19). She stated that only those who truly trust can be truly honest, and many people live lies as part of codependent behavior, which is an attempt to be loved (00:21:44). Denise Darlene recommended Byron Katie's work as helpful for addressing codependency (00:23:19).Self-Awareness and Guilt Soo Kim became emotional, realizing how little they knew themself and expressing guilt over projection, which Denise Darlene acknowledged as a beautiful insight (00:25:43). Denise Darlene suggested that guilt comes from fear-based judgment, and a first step is to drop judgment and look at past choices through a "filter of neutrality," recognizing that the meaning was decided by the individual (00:27:31). She added that people are essentially "innocent and wounded," and judgments over choices have nothing to do with their eternal self (00:28:44).Authenticity, Freedom, and Non-Attachment in Relationships Jevon Perra asked Denise Darlene to share about the beginning of their marriage with Joe, specifically how she committed to never making him "bad" and giving him 100% freedom, even regarding sexual relationships (00:30:16)....
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  • Dealing with outsiders - ACIM text Intro
    Nov 17 2025

    Dealing with outsiders - ACIM text Intro

    Summary

    The text frames forgiveness as the essential condition that allows prayer to rise. Prayer is timeless; forgiveness is temporary because it exists only as long as judgment exists. Judgment is the act of assigning meaning, dividing people into categories, and assuming one knows what things “mean.” Forgiveness is the release of these interpretations. When interpretations fall away, perception changes, and the present moment becomes workable. If one dislikes a person, situation, or oneself, the “problem” is usually the judgment attached to it, not the thing itself.


    Forgiveness ends when the belief in being a separate self ends—when identity is no longer the body or the stream of personal thoughts. In that state, everything is experienced as connected, already fulfilled, and harmless. Life becomes more like watching a play with Jesus rather than being trapped in it.


    Examples illustrate this.

    • Leila misinterpreted her child’s social situation and built elaborate stories about rejection; once she asked directly, the situation dissolved and the judgment was revealed as fiction.

    • Jevon described feeling rejected at a conference, noticing how his own conflicting desires—wanting inclusion and wanting to escape—created inner turmoil.


    The text warns that forgiveness is often misunderstood. Many use it as a weapon, implying superiority or reinforcing guilt (“I forgive you, but you were wrong”). This is “forgiveness to destroy,” which keeps sin alive, enlarges error, and treats love as dangerous. Real forgiveness does the opposite: it sees sameness, not hierarchy.


    Guilt is discussed as the root of suffering. The primary guilt is the belief in separation from God, which generates the special, separate self. That guilt is projected outward, causing constant searching for fault. The ego promises fulfillment in separateness but delivers contradiction: wanting acceptance while wanting uniqueness; wanting children strong but wanting them shielded from hardship; wanting love but withholding openness. The ego’s motto is “seek but do not find.”


    To undo guilt, one releases seriousness. Seriousness presumes that death is real, danger is real, and enemies exist. When seriousness dissolves, the need for an enemy dissolves. Attack—toward strangers, loved ones, or oneself—comes from believing danger is real and separation is real. If there is no “other,” there is no one to defend against.


    One discussion showed this dynamic:

    • kristen projected financial fear onto China and reacted with anger. Jevon pointed out the underlying fear—being asked for money and feeling trapped between giving and resenting or refusing and feeling guilty. The shift comes from reframing the ask as trust rather than burden.

    • Soo asked about “other” versus “enemy.” Jevon noted that an enemy begins as an “other,” and the world expands or contracts based on who is included in one’s sense of oneness.

    • Conversations about belonging versus uniqueness showed that the conflict is not solved by choosing one side but by recognizing that both desires arise from the mistaken identity as a separate self.


    Several interpersonal examples explored how to respond to overwhelming or difficult people.

    • Leila struggled with a talkative acquaintance. Jevon suggested either the gentle advisory approach (“In my life I’ve found…”) or the direct but open-hearted approach (“Have you noticed that…?”). The point is authenticity, not accusation. Avoidance appears kind but is usually self-protection dressed as politeness. Real kindness is truthful, curious, and anchored in goodwill.

    • Healthy communication requires noticing one’s own judgments and speaking from clarity rather than irritation. Accusatory statements trigger defense; open statements invite reflection. Space in conversation corresponds to space in the person’s inner life; when someone barrels ahead without pause, they are often afraid of what others might say.


    Leila later reported success using direct honesty with another friend, which deepened connection. This reinforced the idea that oneness appears when false stories and hidden resentments are cleared.


    The closing idea: forgiveness is always self-forgiveness. One never truly forgives “another,” because what is seen in others is one’s own projected guilt. Prayer is a vibrational state—gratitude without judgment. Forgiveness restores this state by releasing the belief in separation and the need for an enemy. When that belief drops, the world becomes harmless, unified, and safe, and one realizes that one has never been alone.


    #acim #forgiveness

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  • Forgive Yourself - ACIM - Song of Prayer
    Nov 14 2025
    Jevon Perra led a discussion on "Forgiveness as an Ally to Prayer," explaining that forgiveness is the release of judgments and perceptions, which, unlike prayer, is temporary because it ends when one realizes oneness and steps out of the belief in a separate, defined self. Leila Fung and kristen shared personal examples of projecting judgments, with Leila Fung describing an issue with her child’s social interactions and kristen detailing frustration over a friend’s spending habits, which Jevon Perra analyzed as stemming from underlying fears of personal outcomes. The participants, including Soo Kim, explored the conflicting desires for belonging and uniqueness, and Jevon Perra offered Leila Fung practical, open-hearted communication strategies, learned from Jevon Perra's godmothers Caroline and Denise, for dealing with an overwhelming individual, stressing the importance of authenticity over avoidance.Forgiveness as an Ally to Prayer (Part Two: Forgiveness Introduction): Jevon Perra read a passage stating that forgiveness gives wings to prayer, making its ascent easy and swift, and that without it, one cannot rise above the bottom step of prayer. The text describes forgiveness as prayer's ally and sister in the plan for salvation, both supporting the individual, keeping their feet secure, and their purpose steadfast. While prayer is timeless, forgiveness has an end and becomes unneeded once the rising up is complete. However, in the present, forgiveness has a crucial purpose, and accomplishing it leads to redemption, transformation, and saving the world.The Temporary Nature of Forgiveness and the Role of Judgment: Jevon Perra explained that forgiveness, unlike its sister prayer, has an end because it is the release of judgments and perceptions. These judgments are the way individuals perceive things, assigning meaning, and often boxing people into categories like "friend or foe," with perceptions frequently flipping between the two categories, even when no actual change in the other person has occurred.Releasing Perception and Embracing the Current Moment: Jevon Perra discussed that the "perception game" involves giving up one's beliefs, admitting uncertainty, and acknowledging that one may not know what one truly wants. If this is the case, Jevon Perra suggested that the present situation might be perfect, as a "bigger game plan" with God and the universe is giving the individual exactly what they want. If an individual dislikes their companion, their actions, themself, or the world, Jevon Perra stated that the only necessary change might be letting go of the judgment and perception of how things "has to be," which is the essence of forgiveness.The End of Forgiveness and Realizing Oneness: Jevon Perra stated that the process of forgiveness ends when an individual steps out of the belief that they are a body and that their thoughts define them, because at that point they realize the reality of being connected, that "everything is okay and beautiful," and that their desires are already within them. Jevon Perra likened this state to being in a theater with Jesus, watching the entertaining drama of one's own life.Leila Fung's Personal Example of Releasing Judgment about her Child's Social Interactions: Leila Fung shared a personal anecdote about a conversation with her mother regarding her child's social life. Leila Fung initially expressed a judgment, thinking her child felt taken for granted by friends, but her mother stopped her, stating that she did not know the truth of the situation. Leila Fung’s child felt like a "last resort friend," being asked to hang out after others were asked, and then being upset when friends did not reply to her, especially after seeing the friends' stories online. Leila Fung explained that after talking with one of the parents, everything was clarified, and she realized she had created "a thousand stories" in her head instead of choosing to forgive, release judgment, and find out the truth. Jevon Perra noted that when it concerns "level one" issues (like one's children), it is easy to enter "attack mode" to protect "my people".Jevon Perra's Experience of High School Dynamics and Conflicting Desires at a Conference: Jevon Perra shared a personal story about a work trip to Vegas where they felt a "high school scene" dynamic at a conference due to a colleague named Aaron, who was handsome and popular, having a group of "groupies" around them. Jevon Perra described walking behind this group, feeling rejected and separate, and being torn between wanting to talk to people and simultaneously wanting to run away due to difficulty with small talk. Jevon Perra recognized this as a "crazy swirl of meaning" and acknowledged making up many worlds and conflicting desires, such as wanting to be in the conversation but immediately wanting to escape it once there.Misunderstanding Forgiveness and the Role of Guilt: Jevon Perra introduced the section "Forgiveness of yourself," reading...
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  • You can't take love - ACIM workbook Lesson 30
    Nov 10 2025

    #acim #believeittoseeit

    Nov 10, 2025

    Summary

    Jevon Perra opened the meeting and Soo Kim read Lesson 30, emphasizing that vision sees what is already in the mind, while "sight" is derived from projection, and the idea of "God is in everything I see because God is in my mind" should be applied often, both externally and internally. The participants discussed the concept of projection, with Jevon Perra explaining how the perceived "density" of an idea, like the "solid barrier" of silence in a relationship with Carolyn, relates to how hard it is to dissipate, a dynamic that kristen and their partner also experience. Soo Kim noted that relationship dynamics are influenced by "feminine energy," and the group shared personal experiences with projecting inner beliefs onto others, such as Soo Kim's belief that men are the enemy and Leila Fung's self-labeling as the "angry black woman," while kristen discussed their projection of not making their partner happy. Jevon Perra explored how one's greatest strength can be a weakness, leading to patterns of attracting partners who overcome formidable barriers, and Leila Fung stressed the importance of humanizing one's enemies, while Soo Kim and Leila Fung shared personal examples of pushing partners away as tests. Jevon Perra concluded that true love is unconditional, not a trade, and requires lowering defenses, and they also advised kristen, who struggles with maintaining unconditional love for their daughter Britain, to focus on giving themselves grace and being aware of self-created patterns.


    Details

    Lesson 30: God is in everything I see because God is in my mind Jevon Perra opened the meeting, noting Leila Fung’s absence due to Harper’s birthday party, before Soo Kim began reading Lesson 30. The lesson introduces a "new kind of projection," where one attempts to see what is already in their mind in the world, seeking to join with what they see rather than keeping it apart. Soo Kim stated this is the fundamental difference between vision and the usual way of seeing.

    Vision versus Sight Jevon Perra clarified that "vision" relates to seeing the world as Christ sees it, whereas "sight" is what is projected out, often derived from sin, guilt, and separation. Jevon Perra added that the idea of perception, sin, and guilt is what people project out because they "feel bad about" it.

    Application of the Idea Soo Kim outlined the application of the day's idea, suggesting repeating it often while looking around and recognizing that it applies to everything seen or potentially seen. Soo Kim further noted that real vision is not limited by concepts like near and far, nor does it rely on the body's eyes, as the mind is its only source. Practice periods were also recommended to apply the idea with eyes closed, looking within rather than without, as the idea applies equally to both.

    Ideas and Density Jevon Perra discussed how within and without are essentially the same, contrasting the perception that the physical world is "real" while ideas are merely "made up". They drew an analogy between the idea of something being physically dense, like a table, and its spiritual/vibrational density, suggesting that a denser, or slower-vibrating, idea like ice is harder to dissipate or "let go" than the lighter water vapor. Jevon Perra used the example of adding heat to ice to raise its vibration, moving it from solid to liquid to vapor, which relates to how things in life can move from solid barriers to formless states that do not impede one.

    Personal Barriers and Relationships Jevon Perra applied the concept of making things solid to personal barriers in relationships, citing their experience with their partner, Carolyn, where Carolyn's silence when upset becomes a painful, "deafening" solid barrier. Jevon Perra noted that when themself makes a problem real, they support its "solidness" and "permanence," making it worse. kristen related to this dynamic, noting it "sounds just like" them and their partner, considering it a "whole boundary thing".

    Gender Dynamics in Relationships Soo Kim suggested that women often control the flow of their family and relationships because it aligns with "feminine energy," which is linked to emotion and life force, while masculine energy is containment. Jevon Perra agreed, likening themself to the "fire pit" and Carolyn to the "fire," noting that when the "fire goes out it's like cold".

    De-solidifying Conflicts Jevon Perra discussed the importance of realizing a difficulty is "not real" to keep it fluid, which raises the frequency to "pass right through it". They shared that in their relationship, when one person is "unhinged," the other person makes the situation "not real," such as Carolyn laughing when Jevon Perra gets upset over "stupid stuff".

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  • You Find What You Seek - ACIM
    Nov 7 2025

    You Find What You Seek - ACIM

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