• o3 and o4-mini - they’re great, but easy to over-hype

  • Apr 16 2025
  • Length: 14 mins
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o3 and o4-mini - they’re great, but easy to over-hype

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  • Critical analysis of the two most powerful new models behind ChatGPT, o3 and o4-mini. Not just the system cards, benchmarks, and my own tests, but some you may not have seen before. Yes, they can whip up amazing front-end in a few seconds, but you always have to ask what is in their data. Either way, they prove the gains from RL are just beginning…

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    AI Insiders ($9!): https://www.patreon.com/AIExplained


    Chapters:
    00:00 - o3 and o4-mini


    https://simple-bench.com/

    Plus, Teams and Pro, plus token count: https://x.com/btibor91/status/1912568994512662679

    System Card: https://openai.com/index/o3-o4-mini-system-card/

    Release Notes: https://openai.com/index/introducing-o3-and-o4-mini/

    https://deepmind.google/technologies/gemini/pro/

    https://x.com/DeryaTR_/status/1912558350794961168

    https://x.com/polynoamial/status/1912564068168450396

    API Pricing:https://openai.com/api/pricing/

    https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/


    Non-hype Newsletter: https://signaltonoise.beehiiv.com/
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