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Writers With Wrinkles

Writers With Wrinkles

By: Beth McMullen and Lisa Schmid
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Authors Beth McMullen and Lisa Schmid iron out the wrinkles in writing, publishing, and everything in between . . . One podcast at a time.

Writers With Wrinkles is the go-to podcast for aspiring authors, and those in the trenches, who want to successfully publish a novel...or ten! Join us each week as we dive deep into writing and the publishing industry, providing expert interviews, insightful discussions, and practical tips. With our engaging and informative format, you'll get the guidance you need to navigate the complex world of publishing. Start your journey today!

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  • Is AI a Useful Tool? (An Ask B&L Episode)
    Jul 7 2025

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    In this Ask Beth & Lisa episode, the hosts dive into the complex topic of using artificial intelligence as a writing tool. They share personal anecdotes, practical strategies, and ethical considerations for writers navigating AI in the creative process.

    Key Discussion Points:

    • Recent Highlights: Beth and Lisa reference two previous episodes with editor Joel Brigham and encourage listeners to grab the accompanying cheat sheets at writerswithwrinkles.net by signing up for the newsletter.
    • AI as a Writing Tool: The duo clarifies that AI should not be used as a ghostwriter but can serve as an effective assistant in the writing process.
    • Ethical Use Cases:
      • Organizing messy revision notes into actionable workflows.
      • Generating setting-specific sensory details.
      • Providing era-specific context for historical scenes.
      • Verifying world-building consistency in fantasy and speculative fiction.
    • Cautionary Insights:
      • AI-generated writing often lacks voice and over-explains.
      • Always fact-check AI outputs, especially historical or technical information.
      • Be wary of labeling files poorly—both hosts share horror stories of lost drafts and mismatched versions.
    • Creative Challenges:
      • Writing and revising across genres.
      • Navigating tech hiccups and summer distractions.
      • Rediscovering joy in storytelling through character and genre shifts.

    Conclusion:
    Beth and Lisa emphasize that AI, when used ethically and strategically, can streamline parts of the writing process without replacing creativity. They encourage listeners to share their own AI usage stories and remind writers to trust their instincts—especially when choosing literary agents. Don’t forget to check out the private Facebook group, The Waiting Room, for peer support and upcoming questions for literary agent Leslie Zampetti’s September episode.

    Mentioned Links:

    • Cheat Sheets: writerswithwrinkles.net
    • Facebook Group: The Waiting Room (via Writers With Wrinkles community)



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    33 mins
  • From Rough Draft to Ready: Editor Joel Brigham on Revisions That Sell
    Jun 23 2025

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    In this information-packed episode, editor Joel Brigham returns to dive deep into the art of revision, breaking down the essential steps writers must take to polish their manuscripts. From identifying critical story beats to understanding character agency and narrative pacing, Joel offers a masterclass in transforming a draft into a submission-ready novel.

    Guest Bio:
    Joel Brigham is a professional editor, former NBA journalist, and passionate advocate for emerging authors. With over a decade of editorial experience and a background in teaching, Joel brings deep insight into storytelling structure, character development, and the realities of the publishing industry.

    Key Discussion Points:

    • Revision in Phases: Joel shares his six-phase editing approach, starting with foundational story beats like the inciting incident, midpoint turn, and “all hope is lost” moment.
    • Character Development: Tips on ensuring all characters—not just the protagonist—have motivation, depth, and personal arcs.
    • Tension & Stakes: Why every chapter must carry tension and what makes stakes compelling enough to hook readers and agents.
    • Checklist for Self-Editing: Joel outlines critical revision questions including character agency, dialogue realism, narrative voice consistency, appropriate word count, readability scores, and genre expectations.
    • Avoiding Common Pitfalls: Advice on preventing rushed endings, fixing saggy middles, and using tools like the “but/therefore” method for coherent structure.
    • Voice Development: Joel explains why voice can’t be forced and shares strategies to cultivate it through imitation, feedback, and cross-genre writing.
    • Final Polish Tips: Encouragement to revise in focused passes, gather outside feedback, and avoid the impatience that leads to premature querying.

    Conclusion:
    Joel Brigham offers writers not only a clear, step-by-step path through revision, but also the inspiration to stick with it. With practical advice and a refreshing blend of honesty and encouragement, this episode is essential listening for anyone preparing to submit their manuscript.

    Mentioned Links:

    • for episode cheat sheets, sign up for the Writers With Wrinkles newsletter

    🎧 Tune in and share with the writer in your life who’s ready to revise with purpose and confidence.



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    58 mins
  • Drafting Without Fear: Writing Momentum and Mistakes to Avoid, with editor Joel Brigham
    Jun 9 2025

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    Beth and Lisa are joined by editor and author Joel Brigham to discuss the messy, magical process of drafting. Joel shares practical advice to help writers overcome perfectionism and keep their momentum through the challenging early stages of a manuscript.

    Guest Bio:
    Joel Brigham is a seasoned developmental editor and founder of Brigham Editorial. With over 21 years of experience as an English teacher, Joel also mentors authors through RevPit, an online writing community focused on providing free editorial feedback. He is a former Pitch Wars mentor and the author of multiple novels, with a passion for coaching writers through their creative blocks.

    Key Discussion Points:

    • The core purpose of a first draft: “Words on the page—period.”
    • Avoiding perfectionism and maintaining momentum in early writing stages.
    • The power of psychology in writing: Zeigarnik effect, goal gradient effect, and the commitment and consistency principle.
    • Common drafting mistakes: cliché openings, info dumping, lack of conflict, and undefined characters.
    • How to start a novel and what elements (plot, character, theme, world) might help, especially across genres.
    • Discovery writing vs. plotting: how to use strategic check-ins every 15-20k words to stay on course.
    • The importance of not editing too early and letting bad writing exist temporarily.
    • Encouragement for writers to embrace their individual process while building systems to reduce overwhelm.

    Conclusion:
    Joel Brigham offers not just craft knowledge, but a motivational boost for every writer wrestling with doubt or perfectionism. Whether you're a plotter or discovery writer, Joel’s advice focuses on giving yourself grace, building momentum, and ultimately, finishing that draft.

    Mentioned Links:

    • Sign up for the Writers With Wrinkles newsletter for episode cheat sheets: https://writerswithwrinkles.net

    Listeners are encouraged to visit the site for more on Joel and to submit questions for future episodes.



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    54 mins

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