This episode is Part Two of my conversation with Lieutenant General Karen Gibson, one of the most accomplished and down-to-earth leaders I've ever interviewed. After a distinguished 30-year military career, Karen became only the second woman to serve as Sergeant at Arms for the U.S. Senate.

In this episode, we dive deeper into Karen’s motivations—what drove her wasn’t a hunger for promotion, but a burning desire to contribute and take on the toughest challenges. She shares why she once cried—not from overwhelm, but from being assigned a job that felt too easy. We also explore what ambition means for women, how to earn respect in male-dominated environments, and how she and her husband navigated dual military careers and parenting.

Karen’s honesty, humility, and wisdom shine through every story, from skiing with a ruck in Alaska to stepping into a high-pressure role at the Capitol. Her journey is a masterclass in leadership, grit, and purpose.

If you’ve ever doubted your ambition, or struggled with balancing family and a demanding career, this conversation will inspire and empower you.

🎧 Tune in—and don’t miss the bonus episode next!

About Karen Gibson:

Karen Gibson is a former three-star Army general and combat veteran who served over 33 years in the U.S. Army, culminating her career as Deputy Director of National Intelligence. In 2021, following the January 6th attack on the Capitol, she was appointed Senate Sergeant at Arms—becoming one of only 42 people in U.S. history to hold that position, and only the second woman. Karen has led intelligence operations across the globe, from Central Command to the coalition that dismantled ISIS’s caliphate. Today, she’s a keynote speaker and national security consultant, sharing hard-earned leadership lessons from the battlefield to the Capitol.

Connect with Karen:

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In this episode, get ready to hear Charity Brown's answers to the same five questions I ask every guest:

1. What did you want to be when you grew up?
2. What’s something you want to do that you haven't yet?
3. What's something you like about yourself?
4. What's something about yourself you'd like to change?
5. What's your favorite vacation spot?

About Charity:

Charity Brown is a keynote speaker, author, and founder of The Happy CEO Method, a powerful framework that helps leaders align vision, strategy, and mindset to achieve lasting success. Through personalized coaching and workshops, she equips entrepreneurs with tools to scale sustainably—combining emotional intelligence, branding, and advanced technology.

Charity also leads clients through her 5-Star Business Accelerator, focusing on Planning, Positioning, Prospecting, Profits, and Performance. Whether it's securing funding, increasing margins, or building a standout brand, Charity helps business owners grow profitable, purpose-driven businesses with clarity and confidence.

Resources:

Clarity with Charity podcast

Website

LinkedIn

Books: Create Clarity with Charity: Discover A Proven Process to Stand in Your Power, Beat the Odds and Get the Keys to Your Dream Future

Check out Kay's Uncopyable Sales Secrets Video Series: https://www.beuncopyable.com/sales-course

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama," interview superstar business women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to crush your goals like those grapes in my favorite "I love Lucy" episode. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world. Besides being a #1 Salesperson, I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business. Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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This week on Uncopyable Women in Business, I’m joined by Lieutenant General Karen Gibson. From decades in military intelligence to leading in one of the most high-profile roles in government, Karen’s journey is anything but ordinary.

We talk about what it means to be a “reluctant leader,” why she never chased titles, and how being asked to step up shaped her path. Karen shares what leadership really looks like—hint: it’s not about being the loudest in the room—and how her military background, cybersecurity expertise, and quiet confidence helped prepare her for the unexpected.

She also opens up about motherhood, mentorship, and the power of saying yes—even when it feels scary.

About Karen Gibson:

Karen Gibson is a former three-star Army general and combat veteran who served over 33 years in the U.S. Army, culminating her career as Deputy Director of National Intelligence. In 2021, following the January 6th attack on the Capitol, she was appointed Senate Sergeant at Arms—becoming one of only 42 people in U.S. history to hold that position. Karen has led intelligence operations across the globe, from Central Command to the coalition that dismantled ISIS’s caliphate. Today, she’s a keynote speaker and national security consultant, sharing hard-earned leadership lessons from the battlefield to the Capitol.

Connect with Karen:

LinkedIn

Check out Kay's Uncopyable Sales Secrets Video Series: https://www.beuncopyable.com/sales-course

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama," interview superstar business women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to crush your goals like those grapes in my favorite "I love Lucy" episode. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world. Besides being a #1 Salesperson, I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business. Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

Order my Products!

Uncopyable Sales Secrets (Book by Kay Miller)

Uncopyable You (Book co-authored with Steve Miller)

Sign up for The Uncopyable Sales Secrets Video Series (Video Series by Kay Miller)

Contact:
kay@beuncopyable.com...