This episode is Part Two of my conversation with Lieutenant General Karen Gibson, one of the most accomplished and down-to-earth leaders I've ever interviewed. After a distinguished 30-year military career, Karen became only the second woman to serve as Sergeant at Arms for the U.S. Senate.

In this episode, we dive deeper into Karen’s motivations—what drove her wasn’t a hunger for promotion, but a burning desire to contribute and take on the toughest challenges. She shares why she once cried—not from overwhelm, but from being assigned a job that felt too easy. We also explore what ambition means for women, how to earn respect in male-dominated environments, and how she and her husband navigated dual military careers and parenting.

Karen’s honesty, humility, and wisdom shine through every story, from skiing with a ruck in Alaska to stepping into a high-pressure role at the Capitol. Her journey is a masterclass in leadership, grit, and purpose.

If you’ve ever doubted your ambition, or struggled with balancing family and a demanding career, this conversation will inspire and empower you.

🎧 Tune in—and don’t miss the bonus episode next!

About Karen Gibson:

Karen Gibson is a former three-star Army general and combat veteran who served over 33 years in the U.S. Army, culminating her career as Deputy Director of National Intelligence. In 2021, following the January 6th attack on the Capitol, she was appointed Senate Sergeant at Arms—becoming one of only 42 people in U.S. history to hold that position, and only the second woman. Karen has led intelligence operations across the globe, from Central Command to the coalition that dismantled ISIS’s caliphate. Today, she’s a keynote speaker and national security consultant, sharing hard-earned leadership lessons from the battlefield to the Capitol.

Connect with Karen:

LinkedIn

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama," interview superstar business women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to crush your goals like those grapes in my favorite "I love Lucy" episode. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world. Besides being a #1 Salesperson, I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business. Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, get ready to hear Charity Brown's answers to the same five questions I ask every guest:

1. What did you want to be when you grew up?
2. What’s something you want to do that you haven't yet?
3. What's something you like about yourself?
4. What's something about yourself you'd like to change?
5. What's your favorite vacation spot?

About Charity:

Charity Brown is a keynote speaker, author, and founder of The Happy CEO Method, a powerful framework that helps leaders align vision, strategy, and mindset to achieve lasting success. Through personalized coaching and workshops, she equips entrepreneurs with tools to scale sustainably—combining emotional intelligence, branding, and advanced technology.

Charity also leads clients through her 5-Star Business Accelerator, focusing on Planning, Positioning, Prospecting, Profits, and Performance. Whether it's securing funding, increasing margins, or building a standout brand, Charity helps business owners grow profitable, purpose-driven businesses with clarity and confidence.

Resources:

Clarity with Charity podcast

Website

LinkedIn

Books: Create Clarity with Charity: Discover A Proven Process to Stand in Your Power, Beat the Odds and Get the Keys to Your Dream Future

Check out Kay's Uncopyable Sales Secrets Video Series: https://www.beuncopyable.com/sales-course

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama," interview superstar business women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to crush your goals like those grapes in my favorite "I love Lucy" episode. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world. Besides being a #1 Salesperson, I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business. Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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This week on Uncopyable Women in Business, I’m joined by Lieutenant General Karen Gibson. From decades in military intelligence to leading in one of the most high-profile roles in government, Karen’s journey is anything but ordinary.

We talk about what it means to be a “reluctant leader,” why she never chased titles, and how being asked to step up shaped her path. Karen shares what leadership really looks like—hint: it’s not about being the loudest in the room—and how her military background, cybersecurity expertise, and quiet confidence helped prepare her for the unexpected.

She also opens up about motherhood, mentorship, and the power of saying yes—even when it feels scary.

About Karen Gibson:

Karen Gibson is a former three-star Army general and combat veteran who served over 33 years in the U.S. Army, culminating her career as Deputy Director of National Intelligence. In 2021, following the January 6th attack on the Capitol, she was appointed Senate Sergeant at Arms—becoming one of only 42 people in U.S. history to hold that position. Karen has led intelligence operations across the globe, from Central Command to the coalition that dismantled ISIS’s caliphate. Today, she’s a keynote speaker and national security consultant, sharing hard-earned leadership lessons from the battlefield to the Capitol.

Connect with Karen:

LinkedIn

Check out Kay's Uncopyable Sales Secrets Video Series: https://www.beuncopyable.com/sales-course

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama," interview superstar business women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to crush your goals like those grapes in my favorite "I love Lucy" episode. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world. Besides being a #1 Salesperson, I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business. Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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Feeling burned out in your business—or stuck in a corporate job that drains you?

In my latest Uncopyable Women in Business episode, I talk with Charity Brown, founder of The Happy CEO Method. Charity shares how she went from corporate burnout and back surgeries to building a thriving business using her “Four Ps” framework:

Power. Planning. Positioning. Profits.

We talk about:
– How to turn your experience into a profitable business
– The real reason confidence matters before you quit your 9–5
– How to attract clients without spinning your wheels
– Why doing the work before you're ready might be the smartest move

Charity also shares how she caught the attention of Kevin Harrington from Shark Tank—and how her method helps entrepreneurs create real momentum, even in midlife.

If you're ready to grow a business that aligns with your life—not the other way around—this conversation is for you.

Listen to the episode and explore Charity’s free tools at charitybrownbiz.com

About Charity:

Charity Brown is a keynote speaker, author, and founder of The Happy CEO Method, a powerful framework that helps leaders align vision, strategy, and mindset to achieve lasting success. Through personalized coaching and workshops, she equips entrepreneurs with tools to scale sustainably—combining emotional intelligence, branding, and advanced technology.

Charity also leads clients through her 5-Star Business Accelerator, focusing on Planning, Positioning, Prospecting, Profits, and Performance. Whether it's securing funding, increasing margins, or building a standout brand, Charity helps business owners grow profitable, purpose-driven businesses with clarity and confidence.

Resources:

Clarity with Charity podcast

Website

LinkedIn

Book: Create Clarity with Charity: Discover A Proven Process to Stand in Your Power, Beat the Odds and Get the Keys to Your Dream Future

Check out Kay's Uncopyable Sales Secrets Video Series: https://www.beuncopyable.com/sales-course

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama," interview superstar business women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to crush your goals like those grapes in my favorite "I love Lucy" episode. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world. Besides being a #1 Salesperson, I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business. Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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What does Sherlock Holmes have to do with sales? Everything—if you want to truly connect with your customers and outsell your competition.

In this special replay from The Boss Lady in Sweatpants Show with Allison Scholes, I (Kay Miller, aka Muffler Mama) share the Uncopyable sales strategies that helped me become the #1 salesperson in a male-dominated industry. We explore how thinking like Sherlock—listening for clues, paying attention to details, and asking the right questions—can give you a serious edge in any sales conversation.

We cover:

• How to uncover what your customer really wants (and why it’s rarely about the product)
• The power of asking “Tell me more…” to build instant trust
• Why transformation—not features—sells
• How to make your personal brand Uncopyable and unforgettable

I also share the story behind my nickname Muffler Mama—and how installing a muffler helped me break through barriers and win respect.

Whether you’re selling online, offline, or just getting started, this episode is packed with practical ways to stand out in a noisy world.

📕 Grab Uncopyable Sales Secrets on Amazon
📩 Learn more: uncopyablesales.com
🔗 Connect with me on LinkedIn: @MillerKay

Check out Kay's Uncopyable Sales Secrets Video Series: https://www.beuncopyable.com/sales-course

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama," interview superstar business women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to crush your goals like those grapes in my favorite "I love Lucy" episode. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world. Besides being a #1 Salesperson, I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business. Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, I’m catching up with encore guest Kindsey Haynes, Chief Marketing Officer at Kirkham Iron Tech. She's been on the show before, and if you've listened to our previous episodes (some of the most popular!) you'll know exactly why she's back. We met in 2020 when she was an intern, and it’s been so fun watching her journey. Kindsey is a cut above. She's exploded the revenue for this IT and cybersecurity company, based in her hometown of Fort Smith, Arkansas. And guess what? She's done it while working remotely - from Hawaii.

We talk about how she uses the free version of LinkedIn in, gets super creative, and makes herself and Kirkham Iron Tech Uncopyable! She goes through the exact progression that landed a $50K/month customer. The story is NOT what you expect. The story IS one you'll want to hear - and learn from.

Kindsey also walks us through how she uses Apollo.io to automate outreach and track buying intent...and steers clear of the trouble that can come with automated emails. If you want new ideas for effectively reaching prospects in an Uncopyable way, building relationships without investing a ton of time, and yes...closing deals, don't miss this episode.

(Want to learn more from Kay and Kindsey? Join the Waitlist for our upcoming program: kay@beuncopyable.com)

Listen to my previous episodes with Kindsey: Episodes 6, 30, 60, 141

About Kindsey Haynes:

Kindsey Haynes is the Chief Marketing Officer of Kirkham IronTech, and has extensive experience in the information technology world as well as sales and management. Kindsey oversees the marketing and sales department, and uses AI extensively to develop marketing and sales strategies that have led the company to phenomenal growth.

Kindsey graduated from the University of Arkansas, Fort Smith Arkansas and now calls Honolulu, Hawaii her home. When Kindsey isn't working on her next marketing campaign or project you can find her at the beach, doing a hike, watching her favorite show on Netflix currently Shameless or eating way too much sushi.

Contact:
linkedin.com/kindseyhaynes
https://www.kirkhamirontech.com/

Resources:

https://www.apollo.io/

Check out Kay's Uncopyable Sales Secrets Video Series: https://www.beuncopyable.com/sales-course

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama," interview superstar business women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to crush your goals like those grapes in my favorite "I love Lucy" episode. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world. Besides being a #1 Salesperson, I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business. Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, I’m giving you a behind-the-scenes preview of my brand-new Uncopyable Sales Secrets Video Course—a must for entrepreneurs, small business owners, and sales professionals who want to sell with confidence without feeling pushy, sleazy, or salesy.

You’ll learn three powerful sales strategies you can apply today:

• Why a win-win sales mindset is the secret to building trust and closing more deals
• How to overcome sales fear and self-doubt so you can take bold action
• And how to build a personal brand that sets you apart and gets customers to remember—and choose—you

Whether you're in B2B sales, consulting, real estate, or growing an online business, this episode will help you master the art of authentic selling, client connection, and brand differentiation.

🎯 Ready to make more sales without feeling salesy? Check out the full course at beuncopyable.com/sales-secrets

Let’s ditch outdated sales tactics and start closing deals the Uncopyable way.

Check out Kay's Uncopyable Sales Secrets Video Series: https://www.beuncopyable.com/sales-course

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama," interview superstar business women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to crush your goals like those grapes in my favorite "I love Lucy" episode. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world. Besides being a #1 Salesperson, I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business. Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, get ready to hear Lori Heath's answers to the same five questions I ask every guest:

1. What did you want to be when you grew up?
2. What’s something you want to do that you haven't yet?
3. What's something you like about yourself?
4. What's something about yourself you'd like to change?
5. What's your favorite vacation spot?

About Lori

Lori Heath is a devoted wife and proud mother of three boys, one of whom passed away six years ago—a loss that continues to shape her strength and perspective.

Lori enjoys an active, nature-filled lifestyle, with passions that include skiing, hiking, yoga, walking through the woods, and embracing the outdoors. She’s also a fan of healthy foods and loves to travel whenever possible.

Professionally, Lori works at Pigtails Hair Salon in Somers Point, New Jersey. Before stepping into the beauty industry, she spent 25 years as a cocktail waitress in the bustling casino scene and also owned and managed rental properties in real estate. Together with her husband, Lori has helped run a successful construction business for the past 28 years.

In her spare time, Lori finds peace and purpose in creating beautiful hydrangea gardens and vibrant flower beds. Her hands-on creativity and deep appreciation for natural beauty are reflected in every corner of her home and life.

Connect with Lori

Facebook

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Check out Kay's Uncopyable Sales Secrets Video Series: https://www.beuncopyable.com/sales-course

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama," interview superstar business women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to crush your goals like those grapes in my favorite "I love Lucy" episode. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world. Besides being a #1 Salesperson, I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business. Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

Order my Products!

Uncopyable Sales Secrets (Book by Kay Miller)

Uncopyable You (Book co-authored with Steve Miller)

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