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The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments

By: Podcasters David Jones & Dr Naomi Murphy
  • Summary

  • Can institutional culture challenge your mental health? What if your job makes you feel shame, sadness, grief, disgust and fear? What if you are expected not to feel? Or you are expected to be relentlessly competitive? What it’s like to live or work in a prison? Does working with people who commit murder, child abuse and rape affect people who work in prisons and the wider criminal justice system? How do people survive and thrive when facing significant challenges to our emotional health over a lengthy period? How do we protect ourselves and stay compassionate, loving and trusting? Importantly, how do we find and preserve hope? Fyodor Dostoevsky wrote that “The degree of civilisation in a society can be judged by entering its prisons”. In this weekly podcast ,your hosts, David Jones (Forensic psychotherapist) and Dr Naomi Murphy (Consultant Clinical & Forensic Psychologist) hope that exploring less visible aspects of prisons will help listeners see that prisons are a window into society and let us see people not only at their worst but also at their best. We feature a rich range of guests sharing snap shots of life in prisons and take a look at hospitals, schools, sport and the police in order to learn from other institutions. We learn about challenges to human integrity and hear important lessons and heart-warming stories about survival and growth when facing adversity in harsh places. We hope that sharing our conversations can help you make changes to your own relationship with institutions that might challenge your emotional health and well-being. Follow and connect with us and give us feedback. Let us know what you think works, and also what doesn’t. We want you to look forward to the podcast each week. We’ll also be extremely grateful for any reviews that you give us. A simple star or two or a thumbs up will do. Email: lockedupliving@gmail.com or connect with us on: Substack: https://lockedupliving.substack.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/LockedUpLiving Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomimurphypsychologist/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-jones-41910b12/ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/lockedupliving/
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Episodes
  • Jenny Murphy; Exploring the Role of Interoception in Thoughts, Feelings, and Behavior (Video)
    May 15 2024

    Summary

    Dr Jenny Murphy, is a senior lecturer at the University of Surrey. Here she discusses interoception and its importance in mental and physical health. Interoception refers to the processing of signals that come from inside the body, such as heart rate and breathing. People can differ in their ability to perceive these signals, as well as how much attention they pay to them and how they evaluate them. Interoception is associated with homeostasis and has been linked to various mental health conditions and higher-order cognitive abilities. Measurement of interoception is challenging but can be done through various tasks and self-report measures. Clinical applications include interoception training for anxiety and physical health conditions. Jenny discusses the role of perception and external cues in regulating the body, as well as the potential factors influencing interoception. She explains that her research focuses on measuring interoception and its development, and she is currently studying interoception across the menstrual cycle. Jenny also discusses the clinical implications of her work and the possible integration of interoception into therapy. She emphasizes the importance of interdisciplinary collaboration and the need for more research on the relationship between thoughts, feelings, and behavior. Jenny mentions her upcoming textbook on interoception and concludes by offering advice on improving well-being through the understanding and regulation of interoceptive signals. She is editing a textbook on interoception at the moment that should be published by Springer, Nature at the end of the year.

    Keywords

    interoception, signals, perception, attention, evaluation, mental health, physical health, measurement, clinical applications, perception, external cues, regulation, body, interoception, development, menstrual cycle, clinical implications, therapy, interdisciplinary collaboration, thoughts, feelings, behavior, textbook, well-being

    Takeaways

    • Interoception refers to the processing of signals that come from inside the body, such as heart rate and breathing.
    • People can differ in their ability to perceive these signals, as well as how much attention they pay to them and how they evaluate them.
    • Interoception is associated with homeostasis and has been linked to various mental health conditions and higher-order cognitive abilities.
    • Measurement of interoception is challenging but can be done through various tasks and self-report measures.
    • Clinical applications of interoception include training for anxiety and physical health conditions. Perception and external cues play a role in regulating the body and compensating for imperfect interoceptive signals.
    • Jenny's research focuses on measuring interoception and its development, with current studies on interoception across the menstrual cycle.
    • There are limited clinical implications of interoception research at present, but it may contribute to therapies like mindfulness and cognitive-behavioral therapy.
    • Interoception is an interdisciplinary field that can benefit from collaboration and integration with other areas of research.
    • The relationship between thoughts, feelings, and behavior is complex and requires further investigation in the context of interoception.
    • Jenny is working on a textbook on interoception that aims to provide an up-to-date and comprehensive resource for students and practitioners.
    • Improving well-being through interoception involves recognizing the balance between paying attention to bodily signals and focusing on external cues.
    • Publications https://www.jennymurphylab.com/publications

    Bio

    Jenny completed her PhD at King’s College London in December 2019. Here she investigated the measurement of interoception, it’s developmental trajectory and the relationship between interoception, health and higher order cognition. In April 2020 she took up a lectureship position at Royal Holloway University of London and in March 2024 she took up a senior lectureship position at the University of Surrey. Jenny’s work on interoception has been recognised by several awards for doctoral contributions (from the British Psychological Society, Experimental Psychology Society and King’s College London) and early career prizes (the American Psychological Society Rising Star Award and the Young Investigator Award from the European Society for Cognitive and Affective Neuroscience). Jenny is particularly interested in sex differences in interoceptive abilities, including how these emerge across development and whether they relate to sex differences in mental and physical health. She currently holds a New Investigator Grant from the Medical Research Council for investigating changes in interoception across the menstrual cycle.

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  • Jenny Murphy; Exploring the Role of Interoception in Thoughts, Feelings, and Behavior (Audio)
    May 15 2024

    Summary

    Dr Jenny Murphy is a senior lecturer at the University of Surrey. Here she discusses interoception and its importance in mental and physical health. Interoception refers to the processing of signals that come from inside the body, such as heart rate and breathing. People can differ in their ability to perceive these signals, as well as how much attention they pay to them and how they evaluate them. Interoception is associated with homeostasis and has been linked to various mental health conditions and higher-order cognitive abilities. Measurement of interoception is challenging but can be done through various tasks and self-report measures. Clinical applications include interoception training for anxiety and physical health conditions. Jenny discusses the role of perception and external cues in regulating the body, as well as the potential factors influencing interoception. She explains that her research focuses on measuring interoception and its development, and she is currently studying interoception across the menstrual cycle. Jenny also discusses the clinical implications of her work and the possible integration of interoception into therapy. She emphasizes the importance of interdisciplinary collaboration and the need for more research on the relationship between thoughts, feelings, and behavior. Jenny mentions her upcoming textbook on interoception and concludes by offering advice on improving well-being through the understanding and regulation of interoceptive signals. She is editing a textbook on interoception at the moment that should be published by Springer, Nature at the end of the year.

    Keywords

    interoception, signals, perception, attention, evaluation, mental health, physical health, measurement, clinical applications, perception, external cues, regulation, body, interoception, development, menstrual cycle, clinical implications, therapy, interdisciplinary collaboration, thoughts, feelings, behavior, textbook, well-being

    Takeaways

    • Interoception refers to the processing of signals that come from inside the body, such as heart rate and breathing.
    • People can differ in their ability to perceive these signals, as well as how much attention they pay to them and how they evaluate them.
    • Interoception is associated with homeostasis and has been linked to various mental health conditions and higher-order cognitive abilities.
    • Measurement of interoception is challenging but can be done through various tasks and self-report measures.
    • Clinical applications of interoception include training for anxiety and physical health conditions. Perception and external cues play a role in regulating the body and compensating for imperfect interoceptive signals.
    • Jenny's research focuses on measuring interoception and its development, with current studies on interoception across the menstrual cycle.
    • There are limited clinical implications of interoception research at present, but it may contribute to therapies like mindfulness and cognitive-behavioral therapy.
    • Interoception is an interdisciplinary field that can benefit from collaboration and integration with other areas of research.
    • The relationship between thoughts, feelings, and behavior is complex and requires further investigation in the context of interoception.
    • Jenny is working on a textbook on interoception that aims to provide an up-to-date and comprehensive resource for students and practitioners.
    • Improving well-being through interoception involves recognizing the balance between paying attention to bodily signals and focusing on external cues.
    • Publications https://www.jennymurphylab.com/publications

    Bio

    Jenny completed her PhD at King’s College London in December 2019. Here she investigated the measurement of interoception, it’s developmental trajectory and the relationship between interoception, health and higher order cognition. In April 2020 she took up a lectureship position at Royal Holloway University of London and in March 2024 she took up a senior lectureship position at the University of Surrey. Jenny’s work on interoception has been recognised by several awards for doctoral contributions (from the British Psychological Society, Experimental Psychology Society and King’s College London) and early career prizes (the American Psychological Society Rising Star Award and the Young Investigator Award from the European Society for Cognitive and Affective Neuroscience). Jenny is particularly interested in sex differences in interoceptive abilities, including how these emerge across development and whether they relate to sex differences in mental and physical health. She currently holds a New Investigator Grant from the Medical Research Council for investigating changes in interoception across the menstrual cycle.

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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • David and Naomi talk about body identification and body identity dysphoria.
    May 10 2024
    Summary Marius Theodore Gustavson was imprisoned for life yesterday. He is known as he eunuch maker. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/09/how-eunuch-maker-livestreamed-extreme-body-modifications-marius-gustavson In this episode, David and Naomi discuss body identification and body identity dysphoria. They explore the historical context of body modifications, such as castrati, and the ethical dilemmas surrounding extreme body modifications. They delve into the psychological processes and origins of body integrity dysphoria, including the role of childhood sexual abuse. The conversation also touches on the desire to shock and the exhibitionist tendencies of some individuals. They discuss potential treatment approaches, including psychotherapy and augmented reality, and the ethical considerations involved. Overall, the episode highlights the complexity of these conditions and the need for further research and understanding. Takeaways
    • Body identity dysphoria, also known as body integrity identity disorder, is a rare condition characterized by a desire to have a limb or body part amputated.
    • Extreme body modifications, such as castration, can be driven by a range of factors, including sexual sadism, self-hatred, and a desire for attention or shock value.
    • Treatment for body identity dysphoria is challenging due to the lack of research and understanding. Psychotherapy and talking therapy may be effective in addressing underlying psychological issues.
    • Ethical considerations arise when considering surgical interventions for body identity dysphoria, and early intervention and support are crucial in minimizing harm and providing appropriate care.
    Chapters 00:00Introduction 00:35Body Identification 01:06Body Identity Dysphoria 04:06Historical Context: Castrati 05:12Body Integrity Dysphoria 06:14Ethical Dilemmas 07:07Psychological Processes 09:22Psychological Projection 10:27Polymorphous Perversity 11:04Psychological Origins 13:19Sadism and Masochism 16:27Disgust and Sadism 23:16Neuroscience and Brain Mapping 24:16Financial Motive 26:22Exhibitionism and Attention-Seeking 29:28Desire to Shock and Childhood Experiences 30:31Treatment Approaches 35:23Ethical Considerations 37:42Unusual Crimes and Personality Disorders 39:47Understanding Distress and Dysfunctional Solutions 40:47Conclusion
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    39 mins

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