Chris has a conversation with 3rd degree black belt Ryan Young who runs Kama Jiu Jitsu's Dallas Texas location. Ryan has been training since 1989 under Relson Gracie in his home state of Hawaii. He talks about the early days of Jiu Jitsu in America and how he eventually met Rickson Gracie student and Dirty Dozen member Dave Kama. Chris and Ryan also talk about the preservation of Rickson Gracie lineage Jiu Jitsu as a holistic system, the difficulties of teaching and learning the art, and what is lost in modern Jiu Jitsu.

Kama Jiu Jitsu and Instagram

Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

Chris catches up with Nathan Orchard, a 3rd degree BJJ black belt under Eddie Bravo at 10th Planet. They talk about his unorthodox beginnings as a self taught MMA fighter, and his move to focus on Jiu Jitsu in the 10th Planet system where he was promoted to blue belt status before ever taking a class. Later the conversation turns to philosophy not just on Jiu Jitsu but ancient wisdom practices and observations on modern trajectories.

NathanOrchard.com and Instagram

Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

Host Chris Odell has a long and amusing conversation with BJJ Black Belt and somewhat reluctant BJJ instructional video star Chris Burns. They discuss Chris' history and current work in the realm of Jiu Jitsu, their shared passion for the original martial art, particularly as shown by Rickson Gracie, in contrast to the sport style. They also explore the teaching mindset, and dig into Chris' unique, sometimes controversial personality and presentation.

Chris Burns is a second degree black belt under Rickson Gracie and the founder of the Zero Point Gracie Jiu Jitsu Academy. He also works with The BJJ Project which produces a ton a of great content with his teachings.

Chris Burns' Instagram and Facebook

Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

Chris sits down with James Driskill, a Rickson Gracie black belt currently serving as Rickson's full time uke and assistant instructor. James has applied the principals of learning to many areas of life including regenerative agriculture, cannabis farming and many more topics covered in the discussion.

Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

Josh McKinney and Chris Odell have a fun talk about various topics revolving mostly around Josh's life journey from being a fat kid needing exercise to becoming a top level competitor, to founding his own gym.

Josh is also the host of a podcast that Datsusara proudly sponsors called "I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu". " where "each episode will help you suck just a little less at jiu-jitsu, or your money back"!

Josh McKinney's "I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu" Podcast and YouTube Channel

Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

Akira The Don talks with Chris about how and why he creates music that channels the great philosophy of the ages, finding meaning in life through dark times, Chris' return to the podcast and jiu jitsu.

Akira the Don is an Artist, DJ, and architect of the Meaningwave® Universe.

Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).