Chris has a conversation with 3rd degree black belt Ryan Young who runs Kama Jiu Jitsu's Dallas Texas location. Ryan has been training since 1989 under Relson Gracie in his home state of Hawaii. He talks about the early days of Jiu Jitsu in America and how he eventually met Rickson Gracie student and Dirty Dozen member Dave Kama. Chris and Ryan also talk about the preservation of Rickson Gracie lineage Jiu Jitsu as a holistic system, the difficulties of teaching and learning the art, and what is lost in modern Jiu Jitsu.

Kama Jiu Jitsu and Instagram

Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

Chris catches up with Nathan Orchard, a 3rd degree BJJ black belt under Eddie Bravo at 10th Planet. They talk about his unorthodox beginnings as a self taught MMA fighter, and his move to focus on Jiu Jitsu in the 10th Planet system where he was promoted to blue belt status before ever taking a class. Later the conversation turns to philosophy not just on Jiu Jitsu but ancient wisdom practices and observations on modern trajectories.

NathanOrchard.com and Instagram

Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

Host Chris Odell has a long and amusing conversation with BJJ Black Belt and somewhat reluctant BJJ instructional video star Chris Burns. They discuss Chris' history and current work in the realm of Jiu Jitsu, their shared passion for the original martial art, particularly as shown by Rickson Gracie, in contrast to the sport style. They also explore the teaching mindset, and dig into Chris' unique, sometimes controversial personality and presentation.

Chris Burns is a second degree black belt under Rickson Gracie and the founder of the Zero Point Gracie Jiu Jitsu Academy. He also works with The BJJ Project which produces a ton a of great content with his teachings.

Chris Burns' Instagram and Facebook

Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).