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On Rogue Startups we share the journey of startup founders as they're growing their businesses. We feature experts in the fields of sales, marketing, and product development to hear how they're growth hacking their productized services and SaaS products. If you're on the journey of an entrepreneur then tune and hear how we're tackling some of the same obstacles you may be facing, and how we're winning in the game of business. Listeners of Startups for the Rest of Us, My First Million, Mixergy, and Bootstrapped Web will love checking out our show.© 2023 RogueStartups Economics Leadership Management & Leadership
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  • RS348: Not Exactly White Hat AI-SEO with Lars Lofgren
    Jul 16 2025

    In today’s episode, Craig sits down with AI-SEO expert Lars Lofgren to unpack the future of AI-SEO in a world dominated by artificial intelligence. They explore how to attract and retain traffic through both on-site and off-site strategies like Reddit, YouTube, LinkedIn, and beyond.

    With AI rapidly reshaping the digital landscape, the traditional rules of content and inbound marketing are being rewritten. Should SEO still be your top focus? How do you build brand authority when search algorithms are changing every day?

    Tune in for practical tips and bold insights on what’s working now—and what’s next.

    Highlights from Craig and Lar’s conversation:
    • What does SEO even mean in the age of AI?
    • How the search landscape has shifted with AI’s rise
    • The #1 thing to do now to thrive in AI-powered search results
    • Top of Funnel (TOFU) vs Bottom of Funnel (BOFU) marketing
    • Why Google prioritizes specific landing pages for specific products
    • The companies gaming AI—and how it’s disrupting traditional SEO
    • How to get your brand seen in AI answers and social media feeds
    • The surprising impact of Reddit on SEO strategy
    • Why SEO best practices feel more unclear than ever
    • Authentic content vs high-volume output, what wins with AI?
    • Building trust: How to make your site feel real to your visitors
    • Ads, paid influencers, evangelists: what actually pays off?

    Resources and Links from This Episode

    • Lars on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/larslofgren/
    • Lars’ website and newsletter: https://larslofgren.com/
    • Lars on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/larslofgren.bsky.social
    • Lars on Twitter/X: https://x.com/larslofgren?lang=en
    • Find me on Twit...
    Chapters
    • (00:00:00) - Interviewing Lars Lofgren on AI-SEO
    • (00:01:20) - What to Call AI SEO?
    • (00:03:23) - SaaS Companies: The AI SEO Challenge
    • (00:05:56) - Top of the funnel and AI in the SEO
    • (00:09:57) - SEO Training: Bottom of the funnel vs
    • (00:12:43) - What's The Difference Between a Keyword and a Topic?
    • (00:16:10) - Is Content Still the Only Way to Win on Google?
    • (00:22:46) - Local SEO: Don't Get Duped By Fake Reviews
    • (00:27:00) - How to Build a Brand on Reddit
    • (00:33:39) - How to manage content at the startup level
    • (00:35:55) - What Do You Think of SEO?
    • (00:40:28) - How to Optimize Content for AI in 2020
    • (00:46:19) - How to Build a Content Team
    • (00:50:13) - How Do You Get Your Personal Brand Out There?
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    53 mins
  • RS347: How to Rank Any Brand In AI Results
    Jul 9 2025

    This week on Rogue Startups, Craig chats with Mike Buckbee from Knowatoa about how AI is changing the game for brands. With tools like ChatGPT taking over the way we search and discover businesses, Mike breaks down what you need to do to get your brand noticed in the AI world. From content strategies to getting your site in front of the right eyes, this episode’s got the lowdown on how to stay ahead in an AI-driven world.

    Michael is a serial entrepreneur and software developer who has founded multiple successful startups in the cybersecurity space. With over a decade of experience in marketing and technology, he previously worked as a Director of Demand Generation for a public cybersecurity company, as well as consulting for multiple YC startups.

    Knowatoa’s mission is to help businesses win the AI search game by ensuring they remain discoverable, relevant, and competitive in a rapidly evolving digital landscape.

    Highlights from Craig and Mike’s conversation:
    • How to get your business in front of customers in the AI-driven world
    • New strategies for success: creating brand-specific content that attracts customers
    • What "Face vs Space" content really means
    • Where AI is training and how it impacts businesses
    • The role of txt: Is it still important, and what’s the best alternative?
    • Why you should ask ChatGPT questions about your business
    • Personalized AI search results: Are they working for or against you?
    • Why your content should be on YouTube, LinkedIn, and Reddit
    • The growing role of LLMs in social etiquette and advice
    • How search, companionship, and advice are blending in the AI space
    • What does all this mean for businesses in the future?
    • The future of business is pay-to-play
    • Will AI take 30% of our jobs? The "floor" may rise, but the "ceiling" will stay human

    Resources and Links from This Episode

    • Knowatoa: https://knowatoa.com/
    • Mike on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbuckbee
    • Email: Mike@knowatoa.com

    If you feel like Rogue Startups has benefited you and it might benefit someone else, please share it with them. If you have a chance, give Rogue Startups a review on iTunes.

    Do you have any comments, questions, or topic ideas for future episodes? Feel free to reach out to me:

    • Twitter: @TheCraigHewitt
    • LinkedIn: Craig Hewitt
    • Email: podcast@roguestartups.com
    Chapters
    • (00:00:00) - AI SEO in Inbound Marketing
    • (00:01:10) - Noah Toa: The Only AI-based Tool for S
    • (00:05:02) - How HubSpot is Preparing for AI-based Resignation
    • (00:13:28) - How to Optimize Your Website With Google Search
    • (00:17:18) - Is LLMs Txt important for your site?
    • (00:23:09) - Ask ChatGPT: How Much of its Intelligence Is Based on
    • (00:25:02) - What's AI Doing To Your Company?
    • (00:32:43) - How Social Networks Are Affecting Business
    • (00:35:28) - Deep Learning and the Google Cloud
    • (00:37:08) - Top Tech Thinkers: The Future of Content
    • (00:46:11) - Noah Toa: A Landing Page for New Users
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    48 mins
  • RS346: What 11 Years in SaaS Really Looks Like
    Jul 2 2025

    In this episode of the podcast, Craig sits down with longtime entrepreneur Colin Bartlett, cofounder of StatusGator, to explore what it really takes to build, and sustain, a SaaS business over the long haul. With more than a decade at the helm of a company that helps users monitor service outages, Colin shares hard-won insights from 12 years of entrepreneurship and 11 years of running StatusGator. The conversation dives into how founders’ perspectives evolve, especially in today’s turbulent tech landscape, and how to stay grounded and successful through all of that craziness.

    Highlights from Craig and Colin’s conversation:
    • How Colin and StatusGator did when Google Cloud went down for a few hours
    • The factors that can determine whether or not free trials can work for your business
    • The difference between the company in the beginning versus 10+ years down the road
    • How their businesses fit into the current markets (alongside AI and other tech advances)
    • Appreciation and respect for the businesses in such uncertainty
    • Plans, trajectories, and what the future holds for them
    • Views on profit in the SaaS industry
    • Their team structures and how to hire and maintain a team in the AI era
    • Staying fresh in the market after you’ve been in the business for a while
    • The benefits of having a cofounder
    • SOC 2 (System and Organization Controls 2) compliance and privacy standards
    • How many hours does your team have to work to be a value to your company?

    Resources and Links from This Episode

    • Colin Bartlett on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colinabartlett/
    • StatusGator: https://statusgator.com/

    If you feel like Rogue Startups has benefited you, and it might benefit someone else, please share it with them. If you have a chance, give Rogue Startups a review on iTunes.

    Do you have any comments, questions, or topic ideas for future episodes? Feel free to reach out to me:

    • Twitter: @TheCraigHewitt
    • LinkedIn: Craig Hewitt
    • Email: podcast@roguestartups.com

    Chapters
    • (00:00:00) - Talking Startup With Colin Bartlett
    • (00:01:51) - Flare on the Internet Outage
    • (00:03:48) - How Do You Capture Leads From Free Signups?
    • (00:09:18) - How Long Can You Keep Working On Your Startup?
    • (00:14:42) - How Do You Think Your SaaS Business Should Be Profitable
    • (00:16:53) - What Your Team Looks Like on SaaS
    • (00:19:12) - How We Run a WordPress Team
    • (00:21:34) - How to Hire a Team in the AI Era
    • (00:25:46) - Top Executives: How AI Will Affect the Business in 2
    • (00:31:20) - Podcaster on An Economic Dip
    • (00:32:17) - How Do We Stay Fresh After 11 Years?
    • (00:37:22) - If You Had to Pick A Boss, What Would You Do?
    • (00:38:39) - Cisco on SOC2 Compliance
    • (00:42:30) - How much Time Should Your Team Work?
    • (00:46:48) - How To Get Things Done As A CEO
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    49 mins

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