This week, Jake and Bob conclude their series on integrating faith with psychology. They welcome Beth Stoll, a therapist from St. Louis, to talk about how an encounter with God’s love at a Healing the Whole Person retreat transformed her practice. She not only shares how suffering creates a greater capacity for empathy but also why therapists who have experienced deep suffering themselves are able to more deeply connect with clients. They also discuss why one must first live a life of faith before integrating faith in their practice, define the difference between praying with and praying for someone, and reflect on the challenges of trusting God rather than our own abilities.

Key Points:

• Personal suffering can deepen a therapist's ability to empathize and connect with clients
• One must live a life of faith in their personal life before one can integrate it into their practice
• As a therapist, it is important to remember Jesus is the one who ultimately heals
• Learning to receive and allowing God to work in and through us can be difficult for both therapists and clients
• Integration is about encounter with the Lord through the therapist or Him directly

Resources:

• Beth’s Website

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction

02:18 Beth’s Journey Through Sorrow

05:58 The Impact of Suffering

11:42 How Prayer Shifted Beth’s Practice

16:24 Jesus as the Primary Therapist

22:40 The Dynamics of Trust in Therapy

28:12 Praying for vs. Praying with Someone

34:57 Learning to Receive

40:42 Being the Presence of Christ

47:02 The Secret of Encounter and Integration

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This week, Jake and Bob continue their series on integrating faith with psychology and welcome Christopher Lafitte, a Catholic counselor based in Texas. Christopher shares his story of formation, from aspiring engineer to therapist, and about the deep encounter with Christ that shaped his journey. They discuss Christopher’s unique approach to counseling, why loving one another is healing in itself, and how a therapists’ own wounds can become blind spots in their ability to help clients. Throughout all of this, Christopher reflects on how nothing in our lives will make sense apart from the reality we are made for communion with God. So whenever we approach therapy or personal healing, we should always remember Jesus wants to heal us so we can be in relationship with Him.

Key Points:

• Our personal healing and ongoing transformation helps us to more effectively help others.
• Encountering God’s love is the foundation for true healing. Psychological techniques build upon this foundation.
• Nothing in our lives will make sense apart from the reality that we are made for communion with the Lord. Whether we realize it or not all our deepest desires are unique expressions of how we are made to be in communion with Him.
• Healing often begins when we encounter profound safety and love. This atmosphere allows deep wounds to surface and be addressed
• Therapists’ own healing, awareness of personal wounds, and openness to being transformed are crucial for effective therapy, as their blind spots can affect the client’s healing.
• Sometimes the ongoing problems we experience in life, such as anxiety or depression, are rooted in deeper wounds or beliefs. Allowing God into the past experiences that led to the creation of a wound can help transform our current struggles.
• The ultimate goal of therapy is helping people grow in freedom to love and fulfil their vocation, not just to alleviate pain.
• Most healing is gradual and requires patience and trust in God’s timing.
• God heals so we can be in relationship with Him.

Resources:

• Healing Professionals Virtual Workshop: Healing Sexual Brokenness | October 23-24 2025 with Dr. Bob Schuchts, Jake Khym, and Christopher Lafitte
• We invite any clergy who are interested in meeting with Christopher to reach out to us here. We will connect with Christopher to see if he has any availability.

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This week, Jake and Bob begin a new series where they welcome therapists from around the world to discuss the integration of faith in psychology, real life lessons learned, and the various methodologies they practice. Today, they are joined by Bernhard Streiselberger, a Professional Counselor from Austria, who specializes in Gestalt therapy and EMDR. Bernhard shares his journey from studying psychotherapy in Austria to being formed in monastic life and how it has shaped his approach to therapy. He also delves into the details of Gestalt therapy and the Immanuel approach, how these methodologies have positively impacted his clients, and why affirmation is a key component in everyone’s healing journey.

Key Points:

• The Immanuel approach facilitates a personal encounter with the Lord
• Affirmation plays a crucial role in emotional healing
• Sometimes we may have spiritual blocks that hinder our healing process
• Emotional deprivation experienced in childhood can be healed through affirming relationships in our present lives
• Ultimately, it is the Lord’s presence that heals

Resources:

• Thresh Mountains (Bernhard’s Website)
• Fritz Perls and Gloria Counselling Video
• Albert Ellis and Gloria Counselling Video
• Bob Newhart “Stop It”
• Healing the Unaffirmed by Conrad Baars
• Feeling and Healing Your Emotions by Conrad Baars
• Intro to the Immanuel Approach by Dr. Karl Lehman

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This week, Jake and Bob are joined by John Eldredge, president of Wild at Heart, to discuss what authentic discipleship looks like in a distracted digital age. They explore the subtle ways constant connectivity and information overload can erode our spiritual focus, hinder intimacy with God, and ultimately fragment our souls. John also shares stories and insights from his own journey, highlights how unchecked busyness can mask deeper wounds or spiritual emptiness, and encourages listeners, with practical advice, to seek genuine communion with Jesus for true restoration.

Key Points:

• A true disciple is someone who has fallen in love with Jesus. This love sustains their commitment to following His commands
• The internet conditions people against intimacy with God. While the internet is not always be, it is important to recognize its impact on your spiritual life
• Intimacy with God requires intentionality and focus, especially when it comes to our phones and computers
• Mystery and wonder have been twisted into something negative. In reality, mystery and wonder are a beautiful part of spiritual life
• Jesus actively seeks to heal each fragmented part of yourself and continually invites you deeper into relationship with Him

Resources:

• Wild at Heart Website
• Wild at Heart by John Eldredge
• Experience Jesus. Really. by John Eldredge
• The Sacred Romance by John Eldredge
• Beautiful Outlaw by John Eldredge
• A Full List of John Eldredge’s Books
• The Pause App
• Pray As You Go App
• Healing the Whole Person Virtual Retreat (August 4-8th, 2025)

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This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Fr. John Horn, co-founder of the Institute for Priestly Formation (IPF). Fr. Horn shares details behind how IPF was founded, the significance of St. Ignatius' spiritual exercises in priestly formation, and the beauty of how formation has evolved within the Church. They also discuss the Sacrament of Reconciliation, the importance of addressing the roots of sin, and the heart-level transformation that occurs when we bring our fears to the Lord.

Key Points:

• The Institute for Priesthood Formation was founded to address the need for spiritual formation
• Confession can become more than just a repetitive listing of sins
• It is important to examine our hearts before we go to Confession
• Finding the roots of our sin and bringing them to God in Confession can lead us to greater intimacy with Him
• Confession can unlock our true selves and thus transform communities

Resources:

• The #1 resource is attending an annual silent directed retreat
• Institute for Priestly Formation Website
• Amoris Christi Institute
• Amoris Christi Institute - Trifold on Confession (downloadable PDF)
• Healing the Whole Person Virtual Retreat (August 4-8th, 2025)

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This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Teresa Pitt Green, co-founder of Spirit Fire, a ministry dedicated to “facilitating healing dialogue among those wounded by abuse in the Roman Catholic Church.” Teresa shares her own story of healing from abuse, the challenges she experienced, and what she learned along the way. She also shares practical advice to help priests approach conversations with survivors, common mistakes to avoid, and insights into the complexity of what it’s like to heal from abuse. Ultimately, it is Jesus who heals, and He can use whatever we have to offer to bring about restoration in the Church and her members.

If you are experiencing or have experienced abuse of any kind, we encourage you to reach out to Teresa or check out her resources on Spirit Fire’s website.

Key Points:

• Navigating conversations with survivors of abuse requires sensitivity and receptivity
• For many survivors of clergy abuse, there is little distinction between priests and abusers
• Healing from abuse is an ongoing journey, it isn’t something someone can just “get over”
• If someone approaches you about abuse, be careful to listen and not judge their experiences
• Even if we make a mistake in our approach to a conversation, God can still work through that moment. He is the one who is ultimately doing the healing work
• The journey of healing is complex and nonlinear

Resources:

• Spirit Fire’s Website

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This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Matt Rudolph, co-founder of Chrism which is a ministry for priests. Matt dives into the challenges faced by priests today including a need for community, support in embracing imperfections, and formation that emphasizes personal healing. They also share their visions for a more integrated approach to the priesthood that fosters true spiritual fatherhood. Matt ends the episode by sharing how Chrism supports priests in becoming happy, healthy, and holy in their vocations.

Key Points:

• Many priests experience loneliness and isolation in their ministry
• Human formation is also relational, not just intellectual
• Priests need to be known and not just loved by their parishioners
• Formation needs to continue beyond seminary and into the priest's ministry at a parish
• A thriving priesthood requires happiness, health, and holiness
• Personal woundedness can impact how a priest is leading his parish

Resources:

• Chrism Priest Ministries Website
• Wounds Assessment - send an email to Team@ChrismPriest.com (click here for more information)
• Freedom Series for priests with the JPII Healing Center

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This week, Jake and Bob share ideas on how to foster a healthy parish community. They not only reflect on the challenges of developing true community within a parish but also ponder how healthy parish life revolves around our personal healing and freedom. Through the use of multiple personal examples, Jake and Bob also explore the importance of the Sacraments, the role of forgiveness, and how love and fear bonds affect our relationships with God and those around us.

Key Points:

• Building community in small groups and then coming together for Mass on Sunday is one way to begin fostering community
• The Pastor of a parish has the important role of spiritual father and can foster community and connection by his example
• Many people may feel unsafe to build community in their parishes due to past wounds and judgements
• Fear and love bonds not only affect our relationships with others but also with God
• Fear bonds are formed from wounds and can lead to anxiety or avoidance in relationships
• Love bonds are built on trust and intimacy
• Sin and unresolved issues can affect the health of a parish community
• Judgement and Rigidity can hinder community growth
• Healing our own woundedness on an individual level contributes to a more vibrant community on the parish level

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