This week, Jake and Bob conclude their series on integrating faith with psychology. They welcome Beth Stoll, a therapist from St. Louis, to talk about how an encounter with God’s love at a Healing the Whole Person retreat transformed her practice. She not only shares how suffering creates a greater capacity for empathy but also why therapists who have experienced deep suffering themselves are able to more deeply connect with clients. They also discuss why one must first live a life of faith before integrating faith in their practice, define the difference between praying with and praying for someone, and reflect on the challenges of trusting God rather than our own abilities.

Key Points:

• Personal suffering can deepen a therapist's ability to empathize and connect with clients
• One must live a life of faith in their personal life before one can integrate it into their practice
• As a therapist, it is important to remember Jesus is the one who ultimately heals
• Learning to receive and allowing God to work in and through us can be difficult for both therapists and clients
• Integration is about encounter with the Lord through the therapist or Him directly

Resources:

• Beth’s Website

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction

02:18 Beth’s Journey Through Sorrow

05:58 The Impact of Suffering

11:42 How Prayer Shifted Beth’s Practice

16:24 Jesus as the Primary Therapist

22:40 The Dynamics of Trust in Therapy

28:12 Praying for vs. Praying with Someone

34:57 Learning to Receive

40:42 Being the Presence of Christ

47:02 The Secret of Encounter and Integration

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This week, Jake and Bob continue their series on integrating faith with psychology and welcome Christopher Lafitte, a Catholic counselor based in Texas. Christopher shares his story of formation, from aspiring engineer to therapist, and about the deep encounter with Christ that shaped his journey. They discuss Christopher’s unique approach to counseling, why loving one another is healing in itself, and how a therapists’ own wounds can become blind spots in their ability to help clients. Throughout all of this, Christopher reflects on how nothing in our lives will make sense apart from the reality we are made for communion with God. So whenever we approach therapy or personal healing, we should always remember Jesus wants to heal us so we can be in relationship with Him.

Key Points:

• Our personal healing and ongoing transformation helps us to more effectively help others.
• Encountering God’s love is the foundation for true healing. Psychological techniques build upon this foundation.
• Nothing in our lives will make sense apart from the reality that we are made for communion with the Lord. Whether we realize it or not all our deepest desires are unique expressions of how we are made to be in communion with Him.
• Healing often begins when we encounter profound safety and love. This atmosphere allows deep wounds to surface and be addressed
• Therapists’ own healing, awareness of personal wounds, and openness to being transformed are crucial for effective therapy, as their blind spots can affect the client’s healing.
• Sometimes the ongoing problems we experience in life, such as anxiety or depression, are rooted in deeper wounds or beliefs. Allowing God into the past experiences that led to the creation of a wound can help transform our current struggles.
• The ultimate goal of therapy is helping people grow in freedom to love and fulfil their vocation, not just to alleviate pain.
• Most healing is gradual and requires patience and trust in God’s timing.
• God heals so we can be in relationship with Him.

Resources:

• Healing Professionals Virtual Workshop: Healing Sexual Brokenness | October 23-24 2025 with Dr. Bob Schuchts, Jake Khym, and Christopher Lafitte
• We invite any clergy who are interested in meeting with Christopher to reach out to us here. We will connect with Christopher to see if he has any availability.

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This week, Jake and Bob begin a new series where they welcome therapists from around the world to discuss the integration of faith in psychology, real life lessons learned, and the various methodologies they practice. Today, they are joined by Bernhard Streiselberger, a Professional Counselor from Austria, who specializes in Gestalt therapy and EMDR. Bernhard shares his journey from studying psychotherapy in Austria to being formed in monastic life and how it has shaped his approach to therapy. He also delves into the details of Gestalt therapy and the Immanuel approach, how these methodologies have positively impacted his clients, and why affirmation is a key component in everyone’s healing journey.

Key Points:

• The Immanuel approach facilitates a personal encounter with the Lord
• Affirmation plays a crucial role in emotional healing
• Sometimes we may have spiritual blocks that hinder our healing process
• Emotional deprivation experienced in childhood can be healed through affirming relationships in our present lives
• Ultimately, it is the Lord’s presence that heals

Resources:

• Thresh Mountains (Bernhard’s Website)
• Fritz Perls and Gloria Counselling Video
• Albert Ellis and Gloria Counselling Video
• Bob Newhart “Stop It”
• Healing the Unaffirmed by Conrad Baars
• Feeling and Healing Your Emotions by Conrad Baars
• Intro to the Immanuel Approach by Dr. Karl Lehman

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