In this episode of The Painter’s Business Podcast, host Stephanie Stover sits down with Robert Dahlstrom, CEO and Founder of Apellix — the company that’s revolutionizing the industrial coatings industry with robotic drones that paint, clean, and protect massive structures.

Robert shares how a near accident on a scaffold led to a world-changing idea: drones that could safely and efficiently handle painting, pressure washing, and corrosion protection for everything from bridges to skyscrapers — even U.S. military facilities.

You’ll learn:

✅ How the “war on corrosion” costs the U.S. economy 3% of GDP every year
✅ How Apellix drones deliver outsized ROI by replacing scaffolding with safer, faster tech
✅ What industrial and commercial painters can expect as aerial robotics go mainstream
✅ Why drones won’t replace painters — they’ll multiply profits and create new opportunities

If you’ve ever wondered where technology and the painting industry collide, this episode will blow your mind.

👉 Watch, learn, and share this with another growth-minded painting contractor.

You're losing because you're fighting in a red ocean.

Everyone's bidding on the same Google Ads. Chasing the same realtors. Begging HomeAdvisor for scraps.

And wondering why their close rates suck and their margins are getting crushed.

Here's the truth: The best leads aren't where everyone's looking.

In this episode, Stephanie reveals 5 lead sources that sound boring as hell—but print money once you tap into them. We're talking repeat work, predictable revenue, and zero competition.

You'll discover:

• The client type that needs you every single month (and most painters never call them)
• Why divorce attorneys and estate sales are goldmines hiding in plain sight
• The pre-listing hack that gets you jobs BEFORE the paint is even requested
• How to position yourself so clients chase YOU instead of shopping your price

No ads. No discounts. Just smart outreach to the right people.

Stop competing on price in crowded markets. Start dominating where nobody else is playing.

The riches are in the niches—especially the weird ones.

Listen now.

Most painters are broke because they're playing the wrong game.

They chase homeowners. Beg for referrals. Pray the phone rings next month.

Meanwhile, there's a market of clients who need you 4-6 times per year... and nobody's talking to them.

In this episode, Stephanie breaks down the exact strategy you can use to go from feast-or-famine chaos to 58 units painted per year—with the SAME clients buying over and over again.

You'll discover:

• The client type that has higher frequency, faster decisions, and bigger lifetime value than any homeowner
• The 12-contract model that turns your painting business into a subscription (yes, really)
• Why you don't need more clients—you need better clients who buy more often
• The real numbers: how small jobs and fast turnarounds print more profit than you think

Stop trading time for money on one-off jobs. Start building a machine that pays you monthly.

This is how you win.

Listen now.