In this episode, host Michelle Garrett, a public relations consultant and writer, interviews Doug Downs, the host of ‘Stories and Strategies’ podcast.

They discuss the significance of podcasting in PR and marketing, highlighting how podcasts can build brand trust and engage audiences more deeply than traditional social media posts.

Doug shares insights into his journey with ‘Stories and Strategies,’ a leading PR-focused podcast, and the launch of his podcast production agency. They also address common pitfalls that cause many podcasts to fail early, the importance of niching down content, and the effort required to produce and maintain a successful podcast.

Additionally, Doug emphasizes the need for more diversity in podcasting, particularly the inclusion of more women and marginalized voices as guests and hosts.

As the conversation progresses, they explore effective strategies for pitching guests to podcasts and how to differentiate oneself in a crowded media landscape.

This episode is packed with valuable insights for brands considering starting their own podcasts and for individuals looking to become notable podcast guests.

00:00 Welcome to PR Explored

00:49 Introducing Doug Downs and His Podcast

03:22 The Importance of Podcasts in PR and Marketing

09:33 Challenges and Realities of Podcasting

16:13 Building and Engaging Your Podcast Audience

29:42 The Future of Podcasting and AI

31:38 The Gender Dynamics in Podcasting

32:15 Promoting Diversity in Podcasting

33:05 Challenges in PR and Podcasting

34:28 Effective Pitching Strategies

38:21 Building Relationships Through Podcasting

48:13 The Importance of Storytelling in Podcasts

54:29 Concluding Thoughts

Show notes:

Website: https://storiesandstrategies.ca/

Podcast: https://podcast.storiesandstrategies.ca/ (now co-hosted with Farzana Baduel) – #1 PR podcast in the World per Rephonic and Goodpods

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@storiesandstrategiespodcast

YouTube video specific to how to pitch a podcast: https://youtu.be/IMdN6GROLDI

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/storiesandstrategiespodcasts/

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About the host: Michelle Garrett is a B2B PR consultant, media relations consultant, writer and author of B2B PR That Gets Results, an Amazon Best Seller. She helps companies create content, earn media coverage, and position themselves as thought leaders in their industry. Michelle’s articles have been featured by Entrepreneur, Content Marketing Institute, Muck Rack, and Ragan’s PR Daily, among others. She’s a frequent speaker on public relations and content. Michelle has been repeatedly ranked among the top ten most influential PR professionals.

In this episode of PR Explored, host Michelle Garrett, a PR consultant, author and writer, talks with public relations consultant Crystal Richard about managing client expectations in the realm of public relations.

They delve into Crystal’s background, which includes over 15 years in the PR industry and founding her own company, Crystal Richard & Co. Crystal also shares details about her lifestyle and travel brand, East Coast Mermaid.

The discussion covers the critical aspect of setting realistic client expectations around media coverage, including the time it takes to secure placements, the importance of trade publications, and the role of consistency in pitching.

Michelle and Crystal also address common client misunderstandings regarding instant results in PR, the value of press releases, and the impact of shrinking newsroom staffs on media relations strategies.

They emphasize the need for clients to be proactive and understanding about the intricacies and timelines involved in media outreach and coverage.

Crystal offers valuable insights into effective media pitching, the significance of being available for media opportunities, and tips for businesses looking to handle their own PR.

00:00 Welcome to PR Explored

00:59 Meet Crystal Richard: PR Expert and Lifestyle Brand Founder

01:38 Crystal’s Unique PR Journey and Media Adventures

04:16 Discussing PR Expectations and Client Realities

06:28 The Challenges of Media Coverage and Client Education

12:17 The Importance of Setting Realistic PR Goals

24:32 Navigating Media Relations and Press Releases

32:06 The Importance of Press Releases in Modern PR

32:56 Effective Press Release Distribution Strategies

36:22 Adapting to Shrinking Newsrooms

39:36 Leveraging Thought Leadership and Affiliate Links

42:38 DIY PR: Tips for Small Businesses

44:20 Consistency and Persistence in PR Efforts

47:50 Building Relationships with Journalists

50:14 Setting Realistic PR Expectations

56:14 Crisis PR and Timing Considerations

57:37 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

Show notes:

Crystal Richard’s site: https://www.crystalrichard.com/

Follow Crystal Richard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crystalrichard/

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Website: www.michellegarrett.com

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About the host: Michelle Garrett is a B2B PR consultant, media relations consultant, writer and author of B2B PR That Gets Results, an Amazon Best Seller. She helps companies create content, earn media coverage, and position themselves as thought leaders in their industry. Michelle’s articles have been featured by Entrepreneur, Content Marketing Institute, Muck Rack, and Ragan’s PR Daily, among others. She’s a frequent speaker on public relations and content. Michelle has been repeatedly ranked among the top ten most influential PR professionals.

Working with companies in so-called “boring” industries can be its own type of challenge.

PR and communications pros in industries like construction, manufacturing, agriculture and others often struggle to find creative ways to talk about what they do.

How can those in public relations and marketing breathe new life into their efforts when working in these industries?

Michelle's guest, Ayo Abbas, an award-winning built environment marketing consultant with a background in communications and public relations and host of The Built Environment Marketing Show, joins her to discuss how to approach this challenge.

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Michelle's book - B2B PR That Gets Results - is available now

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About the host: Michelle Garrett is a B2B PR consultant, media relations consultant, writer and author of B2B PR That Gets Results, an Amazon Best Seller. She helps companies create content, earn media coverage, and position themselves as thought leaders in their industry. Michelle’s articles have been featured by Entrepreneur, Content Marketing Institute, Muck Rack, and Ragan’s PR Daily, among others. She’s a frequent speaker on public relations and content. Michelle has been repeatedly ranked among the top ten most influential PR professionals.

In this episode of PR Explored, host Michelle Garrett, a public relations consultant, discusses the crucial topic of PR ethics with industry experts Mary Beth West and Jared Mead. They explore the importance of ethical practices in public relations, share their extensive backgrounds, and discuss the creation of an online PR ethics community on LinkedIn.

The episode covers why ethics in PR is often overlooked, the necessity of integrating ethical discussions into the classroom, and the importance of collaborating with legal teams.

Highlighting relevant resources such as industry associations, ethical guidelines, and initiatives like the International Communications Consultancy Organization (ICCO) and the Ethics and Compliance Initiative (ECI), the guests emphasize proactive steps to integrate ethical practices in PR.

The discussion also touches on the ethical use of AI in PR and the need for continuous advocacy to improve the public perception of the PR profession.

The episode concludes by encouraging PR professionals to engage deeply with ethical standards to enhance the industry’s credibility and effectiveness.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:39 Mary Beth’s Background and PR Ethics Advocacy

01:57 Jared’s Background and Ethics in PR

03:33 The Importance of PR Ethics

05:02 Challenges in Discussing PR Ethics

08:05 Ethics Education in PR

17:05 Handling Unethical Requests

25:44 Creating Effective Ethics Guidelines

31:35 The Psychological Toll of Whistleblowing

34:20 The Importance of Legal and PR Collaboration

37:07 Navigating the Court of Public Opinion

43:10 Ethical Use of AI in PR

55:51 Advocating for PR Ethics

58:40 Final Thoughts and Resources

Show notes:

PR Ethics community on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/prethics/

Mary Beth West on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mbwcommunications/

Jared Meade on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredmeademps/

Jared Meade of Rayne Strategy Group website: https://www.raynestrategygroup.com/

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About the host: Michelle Garrett is a B2B PR consultant, media relations consultant, writer and author of B2B PR That Gets Results, an Amazon Best Seller. She helps companies create content, earn media coverage, and position themselves as thought leaders in their industry. Michelle’s articles have been featured by Entrepreneur, Content Marketing Institute, Muck Rack, and Ragan’s PR Daily, among others. She’s a frequent speaker on public relations and content. Michelle has been repeatedly ranked among the top ten most influential PR professionals.

In this episode of PR Explored, host Michelle Garrett, a public relations consultant, author and writer, interviews Sunny Hunt, CEO of Hunt Interaction, about the intersection of public relations (PR) and the customer buying journey.

Sunny discusses the importance of integrating PR with sales and customer success teams to better understand and meet customer needs, ultimately driving revenue and shortening sales cycles. She emphasizes the need for customer-driven PR strategies, the value of customer testimonials, and the impact of consistent messaging.

The episode also highlights the significance of understanding where customers get their information and how to measure PR’s impact on business outcomes effectively.

Sunny also addresses the challenges of cutting through the noise in today’s market and offers actionable advice on using customer insights to craft effective PR campaigns.

00:00 Welcome to PR Explored

00:26 Meet Our Guest: Sunny Hunt

00:44 Introduction to the Customer Buying Journey

00:53 Sunny Hunt’s Professional Background

02:43 Marketing Fridays: A Free Webinar Series

03:59 The Importance of Content Repurposing

05:06 Customer Growth and Retention Strategies

11:01 Aligning PR with Sales and Marketing

15:54 The Value of Customer Insights

23:49 Measuring PR Success Beyond Impressions

27:39 Combating the Status Quo in PR

31:37 The Role of Trade Media in PR

32:14 Voice of Customer Data

32:56 Integrating Sales and PR Efforts

33:30 Leveraging Customer Success Teams

34:36 Breaking Down Silos

35:17 Engaging with Sales Teams

36:41 Understanding Customer Behavior

37:54 Gathering Customer Insights

39:17 Effective Customer Surveys

40:51 Adapting to Market Changes

41:55 Challenges in PR and Marketing

47:37 The Importance of Consistent Messaging

48:44 The Shift in B2B Sales Dynamics

51:17 The Role of PR in Market Expansion

54:00 Cutting Through the Noise

57:02 The Value of PR in Tight Budgets

58:33 Actionable PR Advice

59:26 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Show notes:

Join Sunny Hunt for Free Marketing Fridays: https://www.huntinteraction.com/free-marketing-fridays/

Hunt Interaction: https://www.huntinteraction.com/

Follow Sunny Hunt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnyhunt/

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Michelle's book - B2B PR That Gets Results - is available now

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About the host: Michelle Garrett is a B2B PR consultant, media relations consultant, writer and author of B2B PR That Gets Results, an Amazon Best Seller. She helps companies create content, earn media coverage, and position themselves as thought leaders in their industry. Michelle’s articles have been featured by Entrepreneur, Content Marketing Institute, Muck Rack, and Ragan’s PR Daily, among others. She’s a frequent speaker on public relations and content. Michelle has been repeatedly ranked among the top ten most influential PR professionals.

In this episode of PR Explored, host Michelle Garrett, a public relations consultant and writer, interviews Matisse Hamel-Nelis, founder and principal of Matisse Nelis Consulting. They discuss the importance of digital accessibility in public relations and communications. Matisse explains her background, her work in teaching, and her PR & Lattes blog and podcast.

Matisse emphasizes the importance of making digital content accessible to everyone, including individuals with disabilities. They discuss practical steps for ensuring content such as videos, PDFs, and social media posts are inclusive.

Matisse shares her journey into the realm of accessible communications and highlights several companies leading by example. The conversation also addresses the growing significance of including accessibility in strategic planning, training, and overall communication efforts.

Matisse encourages starting small and progressing with intention, ensuring that all audiences can fully engage with and benefit from the information shared.

00:00 Welcome to PR Explored

00:20 Meet Matisse Hamel-Nellis

03:39 The Importance of Accessibility in PR

04:18 Defining Accessibility in Communications

06:02 The Market Impact of Accessibility

08:46 Challenges and Solutions in Digital Accessibility

13:51 Learning from Mistakes

16:45 Practical Tips for Accessible Communications

22:21 Avoiding Hashtag Mistakes

23:58 Testing and Engaging for Accessibility

25:33 Importance of Integrated Audio Descriptions

26:00 Camel Case vs Pascal Case

26:49 Brands Leading in Accessibility

29:34 Making Trends Accessible

32:17 The Growing Importance of Captions

34:31 Encouraging Accessibility in Organizations

39:08 Starting Your Accessibility Journey

42:52 Progress Over Perfection

45:04 Final Thoughts and Resources

Matisse Hamel-Nelis' site: https://matissenelis.com/

Michelle Garrett's site: www.michellegarrett.com

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Michelle's book - B2B PR That Gets Results - is available now

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About the host: Michelle Garrett is a B2B PR consultant, media relations consultant, writer and author of B2B PR That Gets Results, an Amazon Best Seller. She helps companies create content, earn media coverage, and position themselves as thought leaders in their industry. Michelle’s articles have been featured by Entrepreneur, Content Marketing Institute, Muck Rack, and Ragan’s PR Daily, among others. She’s a frequent speaker on public relations and content. Michelle has been repeatedly ranked among the top ten most influential PR professionals.

In this episode of PR Explored, host Michelle Garrett, a PR consultant and writer, interviews Kathy Kashani, the principal of Azul Communications, about the nuances of public relations for startups.

Kathy discusses her journey from a long-time PR agency veteran to an independent PR consultant, focusing on consumer goods and B2C brands, especially startups. The conversation centers around defining a startup, understanding the distinct needs of startups versus established companies, and the foundational steps necessary for effective PR.

They delve into the importance of having clear business goals, identifying the right time to start PR, and how startups can build foundational elements like a solid website and social media presence before engaging in PR activities.

Kathy also highlights common mistakes startups make, such as not having a clear plan or budget, and the need for ongoing, rather than one-off, PR efforts. The discussion also covers how startups can attract investors through media visibility and the evolving nature of PR resources, including the benefits of hiring consultants or smaller agencies over large firms.

The episode wraps up with practical advice on how startups can evaluate and select the right PR help, emphasizing the importance of honest communication and setting clear goals.

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Michelle's book - B2B PR That Gets Results - is available now

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About the host: Michelle Garrett is a B2B PR consultant, media relations consultant, writer and author of B2B PR That Gets Results, an Amazon Best Seller. She helps companies create content, earn media coverage, and position themselves as thought leaders in their industry. Michelle’s articles have been featured by Entrepreneur, Content Marketing Institute, Muck Rack, and Ragan’s PR Daily, among others. She’s a frequent speaker on public relations and content. Michelle has been repeatedly ranked among the top ten most influential PR professionals.

It’s time for a mid-year check-in on PR trends. Has AI destroyed PR as we know it? Is TikTok the only social media channel that matters?

Back in December, Bill Byrne of Remedy Public Relations and I discussed which PR trends we’d be keeping an eye on as we headed into the new year. Some of the trends we noted: AI in PR. The shrinking number of media outlets. How silos impact our work. The role the C-suite plays in the success of a PR program.

So, where are we now? And what trends should we be watching as we enter the second half of 2025?

I’m excited that my colleague Bill Byrne is joining me again. He’s frequently named a Top 10 PR expert and influencer and often contributes to marketing industry trades, including Ragan PR Daily, Muck Rack, and Bulldog Reporter.

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Michelle's book - B2B PR That Gets Results - is available now

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About the host: Michelle Garrett is a B2B PR consultant, media relations consultant, writer and author of B2B PR That Gets Results, an Amazon Best Seller. She helps companies create content, earn media coverage, and position themselves as thought leaders in their industry. Michelle’s articles have been featured by Entrepreneur, Content Marketing Institute, Muck Rack, and Ragan’s PR Daily, among others. She’s a frequent speaker on public relations and content. Michelle has been repeatedly ranked among the top ten most influential PR professionals.