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More than a Few Words

More than a Few Words

By: Lorraine Ball
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More than a Few Words - A Marketing Conversation is a smart, down-to-earth show about what’s really working in marketing and what isn’t. All in about 10 minutes. Every week, Lorraine Ball sits down with marketers, entrepreneurs, and the occasional mischief-maker. Some are seasoned pros. Others are figuring it out as they go. But all of them share tips you can use. And stories you won’t hear anywhere else. No fluff, no jargon, just real-world lessons, actionable ideas, and a peek behind the curtain of what actually works. What You’ll Hear: • Real talk with real experts—marketers, creatives, business owners who’ve been in the trenches. • Marketing strategies you can actually use—no jargon, no gatekeeping. • Encouragement without the ego—especially for women building bold businesses on their own terms. • A mix of wit, wisdom, and the occasional marketing metaphor—because learning should feel like a good conversation, not a lecture. We’ll unpack what’s working, what’s not, and what’s changing in the digital marketing world so you can spend less time guessing and more time growing. Whether you’re growing a brand from your kitchen table or the corner office, you’ll find ideas, inspiration, and a few laughs along the way. Follow @lorrainefball on Instagram, for a more marketing conversations and lots of pretty pictures . Smart. Practical. Surprisingly fun. More than a Few Words is your marketing conversationCopyright © 2024 More than a Few Words All rights reserved. Economics Leadership Management & Leadership Marketing Marketing & Sales
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  • 1165 Podcasting Isn’t Dead—You Just Need a Plan | Roy Coughlan | More than a Few Words
    Sep 7 2025
    Is It Too Late to Start a Podcast? Roy Coughlan Doesn’t Think So I sat down with Roy Coughlan, a serial entrepreneur turned podcast coach, to tackle a question that’s been floating around like last week’s leftovers: Is podcasting still worth it? If you’ve been wondering whether the market is too crowded or if there’s even room for one more voice (yours), Roy has a clear answer: Yes, there’s room. Especially for podcasters who stick with it. Because while millions may have started podcasts, only a small percentage are still active. The rest? Abandoned somewhere between episode 10 and a pile of unrealistic expectations. Roy’s message wasn’t just encouraging—it was refreshingly honest. He’s hosted six shows and coached countless others, so he knows both the magic and the mess behind the mic. Why Podcasting Still Matters 1. It's not just about downloads. Podcasting gives you a direct channel to build relationships, showcase your expertise, and create meaningful conversations. Think of it less like broadcasting and more like building trust at scale. 2. It opens doors without cold calls. Inviting your ideal customer to be a guest? That’s a warm introduction with zero awkward sales pitch. You're building relationships, not just content. 3. It makes you smarter. Hosting a podcast is like getting a masterclass every week. You ask the questions you’re curious about and walk away sharper than when you started. 4. It’s a ripple effect. Inspire one person, and who knows where that impact lands? Roy’s seen podcasting create unexpected waves of positivity—sometimes in ways he didn’t realize until much later. 5. You don’t need a massive audience to make a difference. If 50 people listen to your episode, imagine them sitting in a room, eyes on you. Feels different, doesn’t it? Actionable Takeaways for Women Business Owners Set realistic expectations. Success won’t happen overnight. Keep going past the “episode 10 slump” where most people quit. Podcasting is a long game, not a viral moment. Use podcasting as a marketing tool. Record an episode that answers a client’s question. Share it ahead of a meeting to warm up the conversation and show your expertise. Start simple. Don’t overcomplicate it with gear and gadgets. Roy’s been using the same plug-and-play mic for years. Focus on content, not cables. Choose one platform to focus on. Rather than spreading yourself thin across every social channel, master one. Get good systems in place before expanding. Be a good podcast citizen. Leave a comment. Share a show. If something helped you, support the creator. Positive feedback fuels better content and stronger communities. Keep your podcast structure nimble. Things can (and will) go wrong. Use editing tools to clean up the audio and keep the process fun—not frustrating. One Last Thought Podcasting isn’t just a marketing tactic—it can be a creative outlet, a learning platform, and a powerful tool for connection. Whether you’ve got a story to tell, a message to share, or just want to have better conversations, Roy’s advice is simple: Start where you are. Stay curious. And most importantly, enjoy the process. Where to find Roy https://roycoughlan.com/ https://va.world/ https://braingym.fitness/ https://www.facebook.com/roycoughlan https://x.com/poleire https://www.instagram.com/awakening.podcast/ https://www.youtube.com/@roycoughlan https://www.linkedin.com/in/roycoughlan/ https://www.tiktok.com/@roycoughlanpodcaster
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    12 mins
  • #1164 | What Went Wrong: The Community That Didn’t Stick | Deanna Russon |
    Aug 31 2025

    I had a conversation with Deanna Russo, LinkedIn pro and founder of Leverage Up, about one of those ideas that sounded great in theory—but fizzled out in practice. Her LinkedIn group community was supposed to be the perfect extension of her one-on-one coaching work. But in the end, it didn’t quite land the way she hoped.

    Deanna built a network of over 30,000 followers on LinkedIn, so she knows a thing or two about creating connection. But even with that experience, launching a paid online community turned out to be harder than expected.

    She tried different formats. Played with cadence. Offered recordings. Bundled it with coaching. Unbundled it. But the reality was clear: the group wasn’t growing, and more and more people kept asking for one-on-one support.

    Sometimes, the business speaks for itself. And it’s not saying “try harder”—it’s saying “try something else.”

    Key Takeaways from Deanna’s Story

    • If it’s not growing, it’s not working. Pay attention to where your customers naturally gravitate. If one offer is thriving while another flounders, don’t split your energy trying to force both to succeed.

    • Running a community is a full-time job. You need structure, support, and likely a second set of hands. A community isn’t just a cheaper version of coaching—it’s a different product entirely.

    • Be careful with “easy yes” pricing. A low price point can feel generous, but if people can get similar content elsewhere for free, you’re training them to overlook the value you bring.

    • Don’t confuse content with connection. Just because people watch, read, or listen doesn’t mean they’re ready to join or engage. Broadcasting and building community are not the same thing.

    • You can walk away and still win. Deanna’s weekly LinkedIn Audio show gave her visibility—but when it became more burden than benefit, she stepped back. That created space for what’s working now: one-on-one coaching and organic LinkedIn engagement that’s deeply human.

    More than a Few Words is a marketing podcast for marketing pros and beginners, who are building businesses, leading brands, and doing it all without the marketing BS.

    Hosted by Lorraine Ball, each episode is a quick hit of practical advice, candid conversations, and marketing truth bombs from pros who’ve been there. No hype. No hustle culture. Just smart ideas you can actually use — whether you’re running a business from your kitchen table or corner office.

    Subscribe for new episodes, expert interviews, and marketing tips with just the right mix of sass and strategy.

    Visit https://morethanafewwords.com for more resources and downloads

    Connect with Lorraine on LinkedIn

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    10 mins
  • #1163 I Only Wanted the Cherry | And Other Marketing Lessons | Lorraine Ball
    Aug 24 2025

    I am going to start this marketing monologue with a story.

    I'm going to start with a story.

    I was about four years old and I went into a bakery with my dad. And while he was ordering breads and pastries, I was standing there looking in the glass counter at these beautiful pastries.

    Eventually, my dad looked down and he says, Lanie, do you want one? Yes, Daddy. So the woman reaches behind the counter and she gets me a Charlotte Russe.

    Now, if you're not from New York, you may not know what a Charlotte Russe pastry is. It's a little piece of pound cake stuffed inside a tube about the size of a toilet paper roll filled with whipped cream. And then on the very top, there's a cherry. She hands it to me, and I say thank you—because I was a very polite child.

    I ate the cherry off the top and as we were leaving, the pastry falls to the ground. Before I had a chance to say anything, the woman came running out from behind the counter and said, Don't cry, sweetie, I'll get you another one.

    Lanie, do you want another one? Yes, Daddy.

    And so the woman gave me another pastry.

    This time, as we were leaving, I ate the cherry off the top, and—yep—you guessed it. I dropped the pastry on the floor.

    Why did you do that? my father asked. And I probably should mention right about now that my dad was not a patient person.

    I said, I only wanted the cherry.

    What we had was a failure to communicate.

    My dad was talking about pastries. I was talking about cherries.

    Anyone who has spent time with children knows this feeling—talking about something and realizing halfway through the child has no idea what you mean. That’s because children come into a conversation with a smaller worldview. They don’t have the same vocabulary, experience, or context. So they focus on the parts that make sense and miss the bigger picture.

    But here’s the thing: adults do the exact same thing.

    Every networking event, every pitch, every sales call—people nod politely while you talk about your process, your platform, or your proprietary system… but if you're not speaking their language, they check out. They're thinking about their next meeting. Or dinner. Or pastries.

    So how do you keep them with you? How do you connect, especially when your work is a little technical or complex?

    Here's how:

    1. Simplify your message. Strip out the jargon. Ditch the 12-step framework. Lead with the cherry—the one irresistible thing you know they’ll understand and care about.

    2. Use familiar comparisons. Find a metaphor, an analogy, something from their world. Talk about what you do the way you’d explain it to a 10-year-old—without being condescending. Just clear.

    3. Test your message before the real thing. Before your next networking event or client meeting, practice explaining what you do to a non-marketing friend. Or your kid. Or even out loud in the mirror. If you can’t make it land simply, it’s too complicated.

    4. Lead with benefits, not process. You help clients get more leads, increase visibility, or stop spinning their wheels online. That’s what they want to hear. The platform, the tools, the magic—save that for later.

    5. Watch for confused faces—and adjust. If someone looks puzzled or politely disengaged, pause. Ask a question. Reframe. Don’t just keep steamrolling through your pitch. That’s how pastries get dropped.

    The bottom line? If you want better conversations and better results :Say less. Make it clearer. Make it about them.

    And when you do, you just might walk away with more sales, more referrals… and the occasional cherry on top.

    If this sparked an idea or reminded you of your own “cherry on top” moment, I’d love to hear about it. Hit the “Let’s Chat” button on all my social profiles or drop by morethanafewwords.com.

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    5 mins
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