Episodes

  • Hollywood Fitness Secrets: Insider Tips from a Celebrity Trainer

    Hollywood Fitness Secrets: Insider Tips from a Celebrity Trainer
    May 3 2025
    In this inspirational episode of Manna, Dr. Turner sits down with the original celebrity fitness trainer, Dan Isaacson—Hollywood’s pioneer of personal training and a true legend in the fitness industry. From transforming John Travolta for Staying Alive to consulting on The Matrix and building the first mobile fitness trailers in film, Dan shares stories, strategies, and insights from decades spent shaping the bodies (and mindsets) of Hollywood’s elite.Whether you're looking to improve your health, stay youthful, or just curious about behind-the-scenes fitness in Hollywood, this episode delivers a powerful message of purpose, consistency, and mindset.Hollywood Fitness Trailblazer:* Dan trained stars like John Travolta, Tom Hanks, Christopher Reeve, Laurence Fishburne, and more for iconic roles in Staying Alive, Philadelphia, Superman, and The Matrix.* Helped launch the concept of personal training studios on Hollywood studio lots, including Paramount and Sony.* Created the first mobile fitness trailers for film productions, bringing the gym to the set.Transforming Bodies on Deadline:* Travolta's transformation for Staying Alive—losing weight and gaining muscle to look like a professional dancer—in just 12 weeks.* Tom Hanks lost a half-pound of body fat daily for Philadelphia, under Dan’s close supervision and tailored protocol.* Behind-the-scenes training strategies for Laurence Fishburne's role as Morpheus in The Matrix.The Winning Results Method:* Dan developed a science-backed training system alongside a PhD to optimize actors' physiques based on their movie roles.* His method includes training adaptations, nutritional strategies, and recovery protocols tailored for fast, sustainable results.Core Fitness Principles:* Consistency and routine are the foundations of real change—no shortcuts, no gimmicks.* Overload (challenging the body) is key to physical progress at any age or level.* “Get comfortable being uncomfortable”—true growth requires effort and mindset discipline.Mindset, Longevity & Successful Aging:* Adopt a growth mindset: aging is not a number, but a mindset and a purpose.* Embrace change, avoid comparisons, and listen to your body daily.* Dan’s tips include daily routines, mirror check-ins, hydration, and cultivating balance and focus in movement.Legacy & Life Lessons:Dan Isaacson’s life work blends science, soul, and star power. His legacy isn’t just in celebrity physiques—it’s in how he’s empowered others to believe in themselves, find balance, and age with purpose.About Dan Isaacson:Dan Isaacson, President of Isaacson Fitness, LLC, is a pioneer in the health and fitness industry with over 30 years of innovation. Known for launching Hollywood’s first celebrity training programs and studio-based gyms, Dan has trained top stars and shaped the industry behind the scenes.He’s co-authored books, produced top-selling fitness infomercials, and was the first Fitness Editor for Good Morning America. His work includes fitness trailers for on-location shoots, celebrity home gyms, and early wearable fitness tech.Dan’s been featured on Oprah, GMA, The Doctors, CNN, People, Time, and more.About Dr. Turner:Michael K. Turner, M.D., is a graduate of Stanford University, Harvard Medical School, and The Mayo Clinic. He practices Integrative Medicine in his own national concierge practice, providing personalized approaches (including hormones, sleep, recovery, nutrition, supplements, and exercise) to help people achieve their optimal state of health. Called “genuine”, “caring”, and “the best doctor in the world” by patients, he brings a high degree of empathy, trademark optimism, and a holistic approach to patient care. He brings a passion for excellence to everything he does. He believes in living and modeling a healthy, balanced lifestyle. Do you need to arrange preventative options for COVID-19?Or active treatment for COVID, Long COVID, or vaccine complications?What would it feel like to be as healthy as you could possibly be?I would love to connect with you at www.MichaelTurnerMD.com This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit drturner.substack.com/subscribe
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    44 mins
  • Dr. Ryan Cole deep dive into mRNA vaccines, shedding, turbocancers, blood clots, and ethics in medicine

    Dr. Ryan Cole deep dive into mRNA vaccines, shedding, turbocancers, blood clots, and ethics in medicine
    Feb 13 2025

    In this extraordinary episode of Manna, Dr. Turner hosts his friend, the renowned Dr. Ryan Cole, a board-certified pathologist with expertise in immunology, cancer research, and public health. Together, they dive into the complexities of the COVID-19 pandemic, mRNA vaccine technology, shedding, turbocancers, blood clots, and ethics in public health.

    Dr. Ryan Cole’s Journey:

    * From a quiet life as a pathologist to becoming a global advocate for medical transparency.

    * The personal and professional challenges he has faced, including censorship, legal battles, and public criticism.

    Understanding the COVID-19 Vaccines:

    * How lipid nanoparticles and mRNA technology work—and their potential long-term consequences.

    * The role of spike proteins in triggering immune and inflammatory responses.

    * Insights into vaccine safety, including contamination issues and unforeseen impacts on immune system function.

    The Rise of Turbo Cancer:

    * The phenomenon of aggressive, late-stage cancers emerging post-vaccination.

    * Mechanisms linking spike proteins, genetic disruption, and immune suppression to cancer development.

    Shedding and Its Implications:

    * Scientific evidence supporting the shedding of spike proteins and mRNA fragments.

    * How close contact with recently vaccinated individuals may impact others.

    A Path Forward in Medicine:

    * The importance of patient-centered care and rejecting one-size-fits-all medical approaches.

    * Why grassroots activism and informed discussions are key to reclaiming medical freedom and integrity.

    Key Takeaways:

    * Vaccines developed for extinct COVID-19 strains no longer offer effective protection.

    * The vaccines permanently alter your immune system in ways that may be transmitted to your children.

    * Lipid nanoparticles promote inflammation and immune dysregulation.

    * The time to Make America Healthy Again is now! And you have a role!

    Supporting Dr. Ryan Cole:

    Dr. Cole continues to advocate for medical transparency while facing significant personal and legal challenges. Learn more about his work and support his efforts at rcolemd.com.

    About Dr. Cole:

    Dr. Ryan Cole is a board-certified Anatomic and Clinical pathologist with a subspecialty training and 20 years of experience in dermatopathology and particular interest in molecular diagnostics. In 2004, he founded Cole Diagnostics, an independent, full-service medical laboratory in Boise, Idaho. As CEO and Medical Director, he oversaw the testing of over 500,000 patient samples and biopsies. In 2022 Dr. Cole shifted focus from daily lab work to consulting and medical education.

    About Dr. Turner:

    Michael K. Turner, M.D., is a graduate of Stanford University, Harvard Medical School, and The Mayo Clinic. He practices Integrative Medicine in his own national concierge practice, providing personalized approaches (including hormones, sleep, recovery, nutrition, supplements, and exercise) to help people achieve their optimal state of health. Called “genuine”, “caring”, and “the best doctor in the world” by patients, he brings a high degree of empathy, trademark optimism, and a holistic approach to patient care. He brings a passion for excellence to everything he does. He believes in living and modeling a healthy, balanced lifestyle.

    Do you need to arrange preventative options for COVID-19?

    Or active treatment for COVID, Long COVID, or vaccine complications?

    What would it feel like to be as healthy as you could possibly be?

    I would love to connect with you at www.MichaelTurnerMD.com



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    1 hr and 26 mins
  • Stop getting sick!

    Stop getting sick!
    Jan 9 2025
    Dear Friends,I hope this start to 2025 finds you healthy and well, but if you or anyone you care about has been struggling with getting sick this winter, I’ve got good news: It doesn’t have to be this bad.Sometimes I meet people who say things like, “I just get sick for several weeks each winter; it’s been that way for years”, or “I’m just getting over my annual flu.” Friends, there is a better path: Let’s get your immune system in top shape… I have written before about how to prevent and treat COVID, specifically, so I won’t belabor those points here. Rather, my goal here is to give you the most potent advice for proactively creating a strong immune system that will work against any bug or virus. And the best part is I will show you how to do this for only about $40 a month.With these simple, safe, and affordable measures, you can kiss illness goodbye (or at least make short work of it :)The “Letter Vitamins”: B, C, D, and zincAll these have vital roles in your immune system. The doses below are for prevention (if actively sick, double them):* High Potency B complex: 1 a day (favorite brand here)* Vitamin C: 500 mg 2x a day (we carry a 1,000 mg brand here) * Vitamin D/K: between 4,000-10,000 units 1x a day (depending on your blood level, with goal blood level at 70-100). (favorite brand here)* Zinc: 30-50 mg 1x a day (favorite brand here) Aged GarlicAged garlic potently stimulates T cell and Natural Killer cell function (read here). Bonus: it also helps reverse hardening of the arteries (“atherosclerosis”).* Aged garlic blend: 4 per day Medicinal MushroomsCertain medicinal mushroom blends are tremendously potent for your immune system, and one mushroom in particular (ABM), stands far above all others in its potency. * Mushroom blend: 2 per day and* ABM mushroom strain: 2 per day X-lear nasal spray (1-2 sprays in each nostril 1x a day)Has two ingredients to help you: grapefruit seed extract (kills many viruses on contact, including SARS) and Xylitol (prevents viruses or bacteria from attaching to your nose and throat). If you’ve been following me, you know I absolutely love this product (and I am not getting paid to say that :)* Scientific overview of X-lear here* The podcast that I did with the CEO is hereMelatoninNot only helps you sleep better but has profound stimulatory effects on the immune system (hence why it is on our FLCCC protocols).* 5-10 mg at bedtime (good brand here)* Note: if you have poor adrenal function, you may need to lower the dose if you feel too groggy the next morning.* Bonus: anticancer properties, a strong antioxidant, and boosts cellular energy production.Consistent cardio exerciseGetting your heart going boosts circulating levels of immune cells for hours afterward. So next time you are “sweating to the oldies”, visualize immune cells flying around your body at dizzying speeds…Minimizing SugarWe all know sugar is bad for us but did you know it inhibits your immune system? And there we have it, dear friends. Wishing you a fortified immune system in 2025!As Always, I Remain, Most Sincerely Yours,P.S. Do you need to arrange preventative options for COVID-19?Or active treatment for COVID, Long COVID, or vaccine complications?About Dr. Turner:Michael K. Turner, M.D., is a graduate of Stanford University, Harvard Medical School, and The Mayo Clinic. He practices Integrative Medicine in his own national concierge practice, providing personalized approaches (including hormones, sleep, recovery, nutrition, supplements, and exercise) to help people achieve their optimal state of health. Called “genuine”, “caring”, and “the best doctor in the world” by patients, he brings a high degree of empathy, trademark optimism, and a holistic approach to patient care. He brings a passion for excellence to everything he does. He believes in living and modeling a healthy, balanced lifestyle.What would it feel like to be as healthy as you could possibly be?I would be glad to connect with you at www.MichaelTurnerMD.com This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit drturner.substack.com/subscribe
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    8 mins
  • Power Supplement: Berberine

    Power Supplement: Berberine
    Jun 4 2024
    Greetings Friends!As an Integrative Physician with a passion for natural measures, I am excited to bring to your attention the next installment in our series called “Power Supplements”. The goal is to educate and inspire you towards optimal health, always with an emphasis on natural, inexpensive, and practical ideas. So what’s next? Berberine. Berberine is a component of several historical medicinal herbs (e.g. Goldenseal, Barberry), features strongly in Chinese traditional medicine, and more recently has been extensively studied and validated to have significant medicinal value. It has been making waves in the supplement world and has featured prominently in several FLCCC protocols. Why all the hype? Let’s dive in! 1. Weight loss. Berberine enhances blood sugar uptake and utilization, promotes fat burning, and reduces insulin levels: The end result is your cells receive metabolic signals to burn energy instead of store it.And how, pray tell, does it do all that?.. It is a potent stimulator of AMPk. You know what else stimulates AMPk?Ozempic, Wegovy, and all the other GLP-1 agonists (read more here), as well as one of my other favorite supplements, EGCG (aka green tea extract). And because it stimulates AMPk, Berberine protects and promotes mitochondrial health and efficiency (read here). 2. Diabetes / blood sugar reductionAs mentioned above, Berberine enhances blood sugar uptake and utilization, and greater cellular uptake = less blood sugar floating in circulation. One study found lowering of the Hemoglobin A1c from 9.5% —> 7.5% (read here) and another from 7.5% to 6.6% (read here) — results equivalent to the prescription medications Metformin and rosiglitazone!Learn more:* Berberine and Pancreatic Beta Cells.* How Berberine Helps Manage Type 2 Diabetes3. Creates beneficial changes to your cholesterol levels.Like our friend, Nattokinase, Berberine lowers LDL and triglyceride levels. * My favorite talk explaining cholesterol levels: watch here* Why is there so much controversy about cholesterol and heart disease? watch here* Challenging talk describing goal LDL targets: watch here* Increases effectiveness of statin drugs: read hereBut even better….4. Actually shown to reverse atherosclerosis.People come to me all the time for anti-aging advice: You know what I tell them? The single most important anti-aging concept — ahead of hormones, ahead of cancer screening, ahead of any particular exercise or diet — is the health of your blood vessels (aka “cardiovascular health”).Why? Because cardiovascular health is responsible for 2 of the top 3 leading causes of death (heart attacks and strokes) and because the function of every other organ system in your body depends on a sufficient level of blood flow.Atherosclerosis (aka “hardening of the arteries”) is the pathologic condition describing damage to the artery walls, progressive cholesterol and calcium deposition, inflammation, narrowing, and propensity for clotting.* Great video of atherosclerosis: click hereThere are multiple factors that conspire to drive atherosclerosis (inflammation, high blood pressure, smoking, diabetes, and lack of exercise, to name a few) but the most important of these is circulating cholesterol levels.Here’s the million-dollar question: Can it be reversed? Once you have created arterial damage, can it resolve and heal? Or only be slowed?Landmark intervention programs (including the Ornish method and Dr. Esselstyn’s program at Cleveland Clinic) have already answered that question. In addition, certain supplements — like nattokinase, aged garlic, Vitamin K, and Berberine — have also been shown to reverse it. Amazing! Learn more: Berberine Treats Atherosclerosis Via Vitamin-Like Effect5. Stimulates the immune system.Berberine increases blood supply to the spleen (read here), activates macrophages (read here) and has been used in China since 1972 to boost white blood cell counts in patients undergoing chemo and radiation (read here). 6. Fights Cancer Multiple mechanisms against cancer, including stimulating white blood cells (as above), regulating autophagy, and inhibiting metastasis (read here). It also has direct killing activity against tumor cells, most notably demonstrating activity against one of the most feared brain tumors — glioblastoma multiforme (GBM) (read here and here).7. Anti-bacterial and anti-fungal properties* Strong, broad-spectrum antibacterial actions, especially against group A Strep (hence traditional use of Goldenseal as a remedy for Strep Throat).* FYI: sold in China for decades as an over-the-counter (OTC) treatment for bacterial-caused diarrhea. * Potent anti-fungal activity against candida.8. Brain Booster: Cognition-Enhancing Properties of BerberineThe roles of Berberine in the brain are, truly, too extensive to all list here, but let’s hit some highlights:* Reduces enzymatic activity involved in the development of Alzheimer’s* Reduces beta-amyloid plaque ...
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  • Doctor Turner and Del Bigtree Discuss on 'The Highwire' - Revitalizing the Doctor-Patient Relationship

    Doctor Turner and Del Bigtree Discuss on 'The Highwire' - Revitalizing the Doctor-Patient Relationship
    Dec 23 2023

    Dear Friends,

    Many of you joined our Substack community since I appeared on The Highwire with Del Bigtree, so we thought to make it available as a Substack post, in keeping with our recent COVID theme.

    With Best Wishes for Your Health and Wellness,

    Featured on this episode of The Highwire:

    * Doctor-Patient Relationship and Insurance Influence

    * Importance of Trust in Healthcare

    * Patient-Driven Change in Healthcare

    * Medical Professional Responsibility

    * Rebuilding the doctor patient relationship

    Watch the full episode which includes a mini-documentary on Dr. Turner HERE:

    About Dr. Turner:

    Michael K. Turner, M.D., is a graduate of Stanford University, Harvard Medical School and The Mayo Clinic. He practices Integrative Medicine in his own national concierge practice, providing personalized approaches (including hormones, sleep, recovery, nutrition, supplements and exercise) to help people achieve their optimal state of health. Called “genuine”, “caring”, and “the best doctor in the world” by patients, he brings a high degree of empathy, trademark optimism, and a holistic approach to patient care. He brings a passion for excellence to everything he does. He believes in living and modeling a healthy, balanced lifestyle.

    What would it feel like to be as healthy as you could possibly be?

    I hope you all connect with me at www.MichaelTurnerMD.com

    Learn How To Remove the Spike Protein from your body!

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    35 mins
  • Dr. McCullough Hosts Dr. Turner - Part 1

    Dr. McCullough Hosts Dr. Turner - Part 1
    Dec 6 2023

    Back by popular demand!

    In keeping with the recent COVID theme and our guests Dr. Kory and Dr. Malone, we are re-releasing this interview we did earlier this year with Dr. McCullough.

    Some of you missed it and many are new to our community since that time. We hope you find it educating and inspiring.

    Best,

    Dr. Turner

    Dr. Peter McCullough hosts Dr. Turner for a lively conversation of several compelling topics including COVID early treatment, the vaccine, the culture of medicine, and cardiovascular health.

    Featured on this podcast:

    * Dr. Turner's personal journey with the COVID vaccines and how he evolved

    * What happened to the Hippocratic oath during the pandemic?

    * Failure of early treatment: a case study of the death of Dr. Turner's close friend, Angela

    * Role of Ivermectin (?)

    What would it feel like to be as healthy as you could possibly be?

    I hope you all connect with me at www.MichaelTurnerMD.com

    Learn How To Remove the Spike Protein from your body!

    About Dr. Turner:

    Michael K. Turner, M.D., is a graduate of Stanford University, Harvard Medical School and The Mayo Clinic. He practices Integrative Medicine in his own national concierge practice, providing personalized approaches (including hormones, sleep, recovery, nutrition, supplements and exercise) to help people achieve their optimal state of health. Called “genuine”, “caring”, and “the best doctor in the world” by patients, he brings a high degree of empathy, trademark optimism, and a holistic approach to patient care. He brings a passion for excellence to everything he does. He believes in living and modeling a healthy, balanced lifestyle.

    About Dr. McCullough:

    Dr. McCullough is a respected internist, cardiologist, and epidemiologist with degrees from several prestigious institutions, including Baylor University and University of Texas Southwestern Medical School. Based in Dallas, TX, he specializes in managing infectious diseases and cardiovascular complications related to COVID-19 and post-vaccine injuries.

    With over 1000 publications and 685 citations in the National Library of Medicine, Dr. McCullough is a prolific contributor to medical literature. His notable works include pioneering early outpatient treatments for COVID-19 and a detoxification approach for post-COVID and vaccine injury syndromes. He frequently shares his expertise in media outlets like The Hill and FOX NEWS.

    https://www.petermcculloughmd.com/



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    24 mins
  • A conversation with Dr. Robert Malone - Part 3

    A conversation with Dr. Robert Malone - Part 3
    Nov 24 2023

    Featured on this podcast:

    * The FDA’s conflict of interest when it acts as both sponsor and regulator under Emergency Use Authorization

    * Where did these authoritarian polices of lockdowns, masking, spying on citizens and censoring speech originate?

    * Why did Northern Italy and the United States have such high death rates? And China such low ones?

    * Why in the world did they choose the spike protein as a target for the vaccine? Did they know, or should they have reasonable suspicion, that it was toxic?

    * Is there hope for the future? The importance of community and values.

    * “Don’t be a victim. Choose not to be.”

    What would it feel like to be as healthy as you could possibly be?

    I hope you all connect with me at www.MichaelTurnerMD.com

    Learn How To Remove the Spike Protein from your body!

    About Dr. Turner:

    Michael K. Turner, M.D., is a graduate of Stanford University, Harvard Medical School and The Mayo Clinic. He practices Integrative Medicine in his own national concierge practice, providing personalized approaches (including hormones, sleep, recovery, nutrition, supplements and exercise) to help people achieve their optimal state of health. Called “genuine”, “caring”, and “the best doctor in the world” by patients, he brings a high degree of empathy, trademark optimism, and a holistic approach to patient care. He brings a passion for excellence to everything he does. He believes in living and modeling a healthy, balanced lifestyle.

    About Dr. Malone:

    Dr. Robert W. Malone, MD, is a physician-scientist with a notable claim to the invention of mRNA vaccine technology. His extensive career encompasses contributions to DNA vaccination and non-viral gene delivery systems. Dr. Malone earned his medical degree from Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine and completed a fellowship at Harvard Medical School as a global clinical research scholar in 2016. His scientific training spans prestigious institutions, including the University of California at Davis, San Diego, and the Salk Institute.

    With a patent portfolio and over 100 scientific publications to his name, Malone has influenced the fields of gene delivery and vaccination. He's chaired and contributed to various conferences and served on committees for the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and Department of Defense (DoD), as well as an advisory role for the NIH.

    Dr. Malone's recent endeavors focus on the response to the COVID-19 pandemic, where he has raised concerns about vaccine safety, development processes, and public health ethics. His stance has led to participation in public discussions, offering critiques of the fast-tracked vaccine approvals and the suppression of early treatment options.

    Despite facing controversy and opposition for his views, including censorship and personal attacks, Dr. Malone continues to advocate for what he believes to be a more ethical approach to public health and vaccine development, drawing on his extensive background in vaccinology and clinical research.

    https://www.rwmalonemd.com/



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    35 mins
  • A conversation with Dr. Robert Malone - Part 2

    A conversation with Dr. Robert Malone - Part 2
    Nov 22 2023

    Featured on this podcast:

    * How Anthony Fauci became the most influential doctor in the U.S. government

    * What, exactly, was the role of the Department of Defense (D.O.D.) in vaccine development and rollout?

    * Why is the Moderna shot 3x more potent (and thus dangerous) than Pfizer and the others?

    * Who created Moderna? DARPA

    * Why in the world was the US government cooperating with China by sending bioweapon technology to Wuhan? (Hint: it has to do with the CIA)

    What would it feel like to be as healthy as you could possibly be?

    I hope you all connect with me at www.MichaelTurnerMD.com

    Learn How To Remove the Spike Protein from your body!

    About Dr. Turner:

    Michael K. Turner, M.D., is a graduate of Stanford University, Harvard Medical School and The Mayo Clinic. He practices Integrative Medicine in his own national concierge practice, providing personalized approaches (including hormones, sleep, recovery, nutrition, supplements and exercise) to help people achieve their optimal state of health. Called “genuine”, “caring”, and “the best doctor in the world” by patients, he brings a high degree of empathy, trademark optimism, and a holistic approach to patient care. He brings a passion for excellence to everything he does. He believes in living and modeling a healthy, balanced lifestyle.

    About Dr. Malone:

    Dr. Robert W. Malone, MD, is a physician-scientist with a notable claim to the invention of mRNA vaccine technology. His extensive career encompasses contributions to DNA vaccination and non-viral gene delivery systems. Dr. Malone earned his medical degree from Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine and completed a fellowship at Harvard Medical School as a global clinical research scholar in 2016. His scientific training spans prestigious institutions, including the University of California at Davis, San Diego, and the Salk Institute.

    With a patent portfolio and over 100 scientific publications to his name, Malone has influenced the fields of gene delivery and vaccination. He's chaired and contributed to various conferences and served on committees for the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and Department of Defense (DoD), as well as an advisory role for the NIH.

    Dr. Malone's recent endeavors focus on the response to the COVID-19 pandemic, where he has raised concerns about vaccine safety, development processes, and public health ethics. His stance has led to participation in public discussions, offering critiques of the fast-tracked vaccine approvals and the suppression of early treatment options.

    Despite facing controversy and opposition for his views, including censorship and personal attacks, Dr. Malone continues to advocate for what he believes to be a more ethical approach to public health and vaccine development, drawing on his extensive background in vaccinology and clinical research.

    https://www.rwmalonemd.com/



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    34 mins