Navigating team building is an inevitable part of the leadership journey, and every leader will encounter rejection from people leaving their teams. In this episode, Larry Kreider and Merle Shenk explore the leadership principle of the Wall and Scaffolding. They discuss how receiving a vision from God and building a team does not mean everyone on the team is called long-term. Drawing from their own experiences, Larry and Merle share how some people are there to help you start, some people are there to help you build, and some people are there to be part of the wall.

Highlights:

• 1 Peter 2:5
• When people move on, it can be challenging not to take it personally. However, it's important to remember the fact that our security comes from knowing who we are in Christ.
• When building teams, it is healthy to build in evaluations as part of your team development.
• We all have blind spots. It is helpful to ask your team, “What can I do better? How can I be a better leader?”
• Scaffolding is not meant to be permanent; it serves its purpose and then moves on. Our desire is for everyone to be positioned where God has called them in His Kingdom.
• There is such power in affirmation and encouragement. So even when people move on, it is important that we affirm them, bless them, and remember that we are Kingdom people.

Related Resources:

• Passing the 21 Tests of Leadership by Larry Kreider
• Straight Talk to Leaders by Larry Kreider, Lester Zimmerman, Sam Smucker, and Barry Wissler
• The Biblical Role of Elders in Today’s Church by Larry Kreider, Ron Myer, Steve Prokopchak, and Brian Sauder
• Great Grace: Walking in the Power of God's Abundant Supply by Merle Shenk
• DOVE International

For more information about Larry Kreider, his books, daily devotionals, small-group resources, or other teachings, visit larrykreider.com.

Larry Kreider is joined by Mosel Royer to discuss her new book, The Exception, and her passion for helping others find mental and emotional healing. Mosel vulnerably shares her own story of overcoming wounds from unforgiveness, pain, racism, fear, and anxiety, highlighting the powerful steps she took with the support of trusted individuals and her deep faith in the Lord to find healing in her life.

Mosel Royer is an author, speaker, and ministry leader, but most of all, she is a follower of Jesus. She has been in some form of leadership for over twenty years and enjoys encouraging other people in their leadership giftings. She currently serves as the pastor of The River House Church and as the co-founder and visionary behind BLAZE Women’s Movement. Mosel has been married to her husband, Rodney, for twenty-five years, and they have four amazing children: Jazmine, Micah (Jazmine’s husband), Christian, and Jonathan.

Highlights:

• As a leader, it is important, when appropriate, to open up about your own journey of healing. This vulnerability not only helps you grow but also inspires others to seek their own path to healing.
• If you are seeking healing in any aspect of your life, take the first step by being honest and sharing your journey with a trusted pastor, friend, therapist, and/or mentor.

Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

• The Exception: An Abundant Healed Life is Possible
• BLAZE Women’s Movement
• The River House Church
• Contact Mosel Royer

For more information about Larry Kreider, his books, daily devotionals, small-group resources, or other teachings, visit larrykreider.com.

Tune in for a special episode recorded live at the 2025 DOVE International Leadership Conference, where Danny Silk teams up with Larry Kreider and Merle Shenk to share his wealth of wisdom on healthy relationships. Danny discusses setting healthy boundaries, unravels the true meaning of fostering a culture of honor, explores the value of covenant relationships, and dives into even more insightful topics from his life experiences and numerous books.

Danny Silk is an author and speaker. He offers life-changing books, conferences, and other resources drawn from decades of experience as a counselor, social worker, advocate, pastor, spouse, parent, grandparent, and leader. He is the president of Loving on Purpose, a ministry to families and communities worldwide.

Quotable Quotes:

• “A boundary communicates hope for reconciliation.”
• “A culture of honor is powerful people working together to meet the needs of each other, the situation, and the organization.”
• “Scared people want control.”

Highlights:

• Hire individuals who align with your organization’s culture. While skills and knowledge can be taught, a person's inherent culture cannot be altered.
• Creating an environment of connection is more important than seeking total agreement.
• Control is an indicator that someone is still driven by fear, rather than love, in their relationships.

Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

• Keep Your Love On: Connection, Communication & Boundaries by Danny Silk
• Culture of Honor: Sustaining A Supernatural Environment by Danny Silk
• The Way of the Dragon Slayer: 7 Reasons Men Need Brothers by Danny Silk
• Loving On Purpose
• The KYLO Show

Related Resources:

• DOVE International
• Loving Our Kids on Purpose: Making a Heart-to-Heart Connection by Danny Silk
• Unpunishable: Ending Our Love Affair with Punishment by Danny Silk
• Danny Silk Consulting
• Bethel Church

Recorded live at the 2025 DOVE International Leadership Conference

For more information about Larry Kreider, his books, daily devotionals, small-group resources, or other teachings, visit larrykreider.com.

Connie Dienner joins Larry Kreider to discuss her new book From Barn to Stage: A Journey of Faith and Creativity. Connie's journey originates on a farm in Indiana, where a deep desire for singing and dancing leads to a life transformed from loneliness, heartbreak, and disappointment into a discovery of identity rooted in the love of Jesus. Through her experiences, Connie established Cavod Performing Arts, an arts academy aimed at honoring God through dance, acting, and music. Tune in to hear Connie's remarkable story!

Quotable Quotes:

• “So many people have misplaced identity.”

Highlights:

• In Hebrew, Cavod means “the glory of God.”
• Finding our identity in Jesus is a foundation for fulfilling the call God has on our lives.
• As we are obedient in the small things, God is working in us to prepare us for the next level.
• Surrender your dreams to the Lord, then remain faithful with the things God has entrusted to you at this moment.
• As a leader, begin by believing in people, then release and trust them to fulfill their role.
• It’s not about us, it’s about building the Kingdom.
• Psalm 27:1-4

Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

• From Barn to Stage: A Journey of Faith and Creativity by Connie Dienner
• Cavod Performing Arts

For more information about Larry Kreider, his books, daily devotionals, small-group resources, or other teachings, visit larrykreider.com.

Larry Kreider shares insights from his book Your Personal House of Prayer: Unlocking Twelve Unique Rooms Found in the Lord’s Prayer, offering biblical and practical steps to help you cultivate growth and joy in your prayer life. Don’t miss this transformative episode!

House of Prayer Rooms:

1. The Family Room
2. The Adoration Room
3. The Declaration Room
4. The Surrender Room
5. The Provision Room
6. The Forgiveness Room
7. The Freedom Room
8. The Protection Room
9. The Warfare Room
10. The Kingdom Room
11. The Power Room
12. The Exaltation Room

Quotable Quotes:

• “God is a God of patterns and plans.”
• “Mark this! Make your amen strong, never doubting that God is surely listening to you. This is what amen means: That I know with certainty that this prayer has been heard by God.”­—Martin Luther

Highlights:

• Luke 11:1-4
• Mark 11:17
• 1 Corinthians 3:16
• Acts 17:24
• Isaiah 56:7
• Matthew 6:9-13
• Maintaining a good and growing relationship often requires some planning.
• Psalm 100:4-5
• Matthew 26:41
• James 4:7-8
• Approaching prayer with a heart of thanksgiving leads us into our prayer times with God.
• John 3:1
• Luke 11:9-10
• 1 John 1:9
• The New Testament Greek word for “confess” means to agree with God concerning His opinion of a matter.
• The English word "sin" originates from the ancient Greek with its roots in archery, where it simply refers to "missing the mark."
• Hebrews 12:15
• Psalm 22:6
• Jude 20
• Zachariah 4:6

Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

• Your Personal House of Prayer FREE eBook | Limited-time offer

For more information about Larry Kreider, his books, daily devotionals, small-group resources, or other teachings, visit larrykreider.com.

Larry Kreider welcomes Deryl Hurst and Wes Dudley back to the studio to share their personal journey of working together as a senior leader and executive pastor. Deryl and Wes highlight the essential qualities of humility, honoring others, and empowering and releasing leaders while offering practical suggestions for creating a personal plan of development for your team members.

Quotable Quotes:

• “Different personalities on a team are a blessing!”
• “As we release others, there’s always something more that God has for us.”

Highlights:

• It is vital for the senior leader to cultivate a safe environment where other team members feel empowered and secure to openly communicate their feelings and insights.
• Maintaining mutual respect and honor, even in the presence of conflict and differing opinions, is important.
• 2 Corinthians 10:13-17
• Releasing your team to walk in their spheres of ministry without micromanaging is key to fostering a healthy relationship and promoting the growth of leaders.

Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

• DOVE Westgate Church
• Passing the 21 Tests of Leadership: Biblical Insights for Leaving a Legacy of Leadership & Influence by Larry Kreider
• The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership by John C. Maxwell
• DOVE Global Leadership & Ministry School

Related Resources:

• The Biblical Role of Elders for Today’s Church by Larry Kreider, Ron Myer, Steve Prokopchak, and Brian Sauder

For more information about Larry Kreider, his books, daily devotionals, small-group resources, or other teachings, visit larrykreider.com.

Larry Kreider is joined in the studio by Tom Barnett and Dave Smith, who discuss the process, lessons, and practical advice they gained from their successful succession experience at DOVE Christian Fellowship Elizabethtown. Tune in to hear the wisdom they share from their personal stories and the godly insights they have gained through their journey.

Quotable Quotes:

• “It is the process, not the end which is glorifying to God.­” —Oswald Chambers

Highlights:

• Leaders considering succession should start preparing and reflecting on not just what God has in store for their church or ministry, but also for themselves in the upcoming season.
• Ensuring clear and consistent communication with your eldership team and congregation is essential to foster their support. This helps your team and congregations acclimate to and take ownership of the changes that succession will bring.
• The preparation process—both personally and within their current position—is highly crucial for the individual stepping into the role as the new leader.
• Having a succession plan provides a safety net for both the congregation and the leaders involved.

Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

• DOVE Christian Fellowship Elizabethtown
• Next: Pastoral Succession That Works by William Vanderbloemen and Warren Bird
• “Transition Markers for Leaders” by Keith Yoder

Related Resources:

• Succeeding at Succession: Founder and Leadership Succession in Christian Organizations and Movements by Peter Bunton
• “Dr. Peter Bunton on Succeeding at Succession”
• Navigating Leadership Succession booklet

For more information about Larry Kreider, his books, daily devotionals, small-group resources, or other teachings, visit larrykreider.com.

In this week's episode, Larry Kreider and Merle Shenk highlight the powerful impact of catalytic relationships, demonstrating how God uses these relationships to achieve more than you ever thought possible. With practical life stories and biblical examples, Larry and Merle encourage you to identify, value, and invest in those called to walk together with you in your life and ministry.

Quotable Quotes:

• "You can do more together than you can do by yourself."
• “Don’t do it alone. Find others who have the same heart and same call that you have and together you can do so much more."

Highlights:

• Luke 10
• Matthew 18:20
• When you find a catalytic relationship, pay special attention, and make room for it, as this can cause an environment where God can move supernaturally in special ways.
• Don’t overlook the key people God will add to your life to help you along the way. Take time to cultivate these relationships.
• We often think that people should and will think like us, but usually the people that God connects us with are those who have gifts and callings that are different to our own.
• Catalytic relationships can provide invaluable support during challenging times, as they involve knowing and understanding one another on a personal level. By praying together, opening up and sharing your vulnerabilities, these relationships can help you navigate and overcome difficult situations.

Related Resources:

• DOVE International
• The Merle Shenk Podcast

For more information about Larry Kreider, his books, daily devotionals, small group resources, or other teachings, visit larrykreider.com.