• Journey to Building an Inclusive Future with Mary Jo Schnell

  • Mar 26 2025
  • Length: 1 hr and 12 mins
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Journey to Building an Inclusive Future with Mary Jo Schnell

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  • Humbled by this lovely conversation with the Executive Director of OutCenter, Mary Jo Schnell. Mary Jo talks to us about leading with empathy and listening deeply to all people, even those we fundamentally disagree with. We can’t connect with others in meaningful ways if we don’t “stay at the table.” Mary Jo walks us through a vision of building an inclusive future rooted in community, equality for all, and intersectionality. May we each be the vision bearers and light bringers for such a beautiful future.

    Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):
    • OutCenter
    • On Tyranny by Timothy Snyder
    • How to Stand Up to a Dictator - Maria Ressa
    • My Gender is the Undoing of Gender by Andrea Gibson
    • Good Grief by Andrea Gibson

    Chapters
    00:00 The Journey of Self-Discovery
    02:41 The Role of the Out Center
    05:12 Mary Jo's Background and Nonprofit Experience
    10:25 Building Community and Support for LGBTQ Youth
    16:15 The Importance of Education and Advocacy
    21:24 Navigating Systemic Challenges
    26:17 Guides and Influences on the Journey
    36:30 The Unmasking of the Movement
    38:29 Community Resilience and Local Action
    43:42 Empathy as a Tool for Connection
    48:53 Navigating Tyranny and Advocacy
    58:54 The Importance of Staying at the Table
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