Radical Sacred

By: Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke
  • Summary

  • Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted.

    For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore.

    Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core of all creation.

    Radical Sacred is an invitation to join them in curiosity as they explore questions such as:
    • What is an experience that led you to a kinder, more inclusive spirituality?
    • Who was the first person you met that broadened your ideas about the Divine?
    • Where do you experience the Holy?
    • If liberation of self leads us on a pathway to liberation for all, what has that looked like in your own spirituality?
    • How do you find joy and pleasure in these wild times?
    • Has there been an anchor for you as your spirituality has shifted?
    • How can the stories we tell ourselves harm or heal ourselves, and creation?
    Not experts, Jenny and Phil strive to live the questions while exploring the mystery of all that is unsolved in our hearts and souls.

    Will you join them?
    Copyright Phillip Dieke
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Episodes
  • Bill Holston Believes in Safe Housing for All
    May 7 2025
    Bill Holston, CEO of Dallas Eviction Advocacy Center, joins us today on the pod! We hear from Bill about eviction advocacy, the importance of all people having access to representation and safe housing, as well as how he finds connection and rest in nature during these trying times. What can we learn when we reflect on the slow movement of the trout lily? Bill reminds us that oftentimes advocacy work begins with noticing what’s happening in our towns and to our neighbors. What have you noticed lately that breaks your heart or invites you into advocacy?
    By all means, pay attention, and get started on the good work of doing your good work, friends.

    Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):
    • Human Rights Initiative of North Texas
    • Faith Commons
    • Eviction Advocacy Center - Donate to help support Bill’s work on evictions
    • Spring Creek Forest Preserve
    • Greenland Hills Methodist Church
    • Book - The Myth of Certainty by Daniel Taylor
    • Mission Tejas State Park
    • Deep Vellum Publishing
    • Vaclav Havel Quote - The Politics of Hope chapter from Disturbing the Peace
    • Bill Holston on Instagram for nature pictures
    • May by Mary Oliver

    Chapters
    00:00 The Beauty of Nature and Spirituality
    03:04 Pilgrimage: A Journey of Purpose
    06:02 Nature's Influence on Personal Growth
    09:01 Justice and Advocacy: A Life's Calling
    11:49 Faith and Activism: A Complex Relationship
    14:51 Dallas: A City of History and Justice
    18:10 Nature's Tenacity and Fragility
    21:05 The Importance of Companionship in the Journey
    33:45 Finding a Church That Aligns with Values
    34:10 The Role of Churches in Social Justice
    36:34 The Gap Between Desire and Action
    39:18 Practical Solutions for Asylum Seekers
    42:08 Finding Beauty in Nature
    46:30 The Power of Small Actions
    49:42 Navigating Hope and Despair
    52:43 Understanding Hope vs. Optimism
    55:35 Connecting with Community and Nature

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    1 hr
  • Rev. Tim Clifford Invites Us to Reengage Joy
    Apr 30 2025
    This week we chat with Rev. Tim Clifford about his journey out of cynicism and how he’s learning to reengage with joy. Tim’s substack, Theology of a Recovering Cynic, follows his movement back towards a truer version of himself through endurance sports, theology, TTRPG’s, imagination, and more. In these dark times it can be tempting to give into cynicism and hopelessness. Rev. Tim reminds us that we can walk a different path, one that’s intentional and filled with curiosity and connection.

    Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):
    • Theology of a Recovering Cynic
    • Arlington Heights UMC
    • Encounter Worship Fort Worth
    • Thomas J. Oord
    • Dan McClellan
    • Tripp Fuller
    • Tim on Bluesky
    • Radical Sacred at Wild Goose
    • Epiphany by Sophie Strand
    • Remember by Joy Harjo

    Chapters
    00:00 The Power of Love and Connection
    06:29 Endurance and Personal Growth
    10:55 The Nature of Love
    15:45 Theological Reflections on Power
    20:00 Endurance Sports and Spiritual Resilience
    28:00 The Importance of Self-Care in Ministry
    29:53 Overcoming Cynicism Through Endurance
    31:23 Guides on the Journey: Theological and Athletic
    34:03 Finding Inspiration in Community
    35:17 The Meditative Nature of Endurance Sports
    37:04 Rest and Hobbies: Balancing Life and Wellness
    40:16 Creation as a Route Away from Cynicism
    42:30 Integrating Theology and Daily Life
    43:00 Connecting Through Community and Events

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    42 mins
  • Pilgrimage with Pegasus
    Apr 23 2025
    This week’s episode is a creative and soulful collab with Stephanie Adelina and Satchel Victory of Pegasus Tattoo and Wellness! While Stephanie gives Jenny a gorgeous strawberry tattoo we chat about trauma informed care, creating safe spaces for everyone, therapy and the coming together of all of the above. Steph and Satchel share with us about being partners in life and in business and all the ways care, connection, and community can bring us together. What happens when tattooing and wellness are combined in an inclusive space? Join us to find out!

    Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):

    • The Strawberry Poem by Keaton St. James
    • Pegasus on Insta
    • Pegasus Tattoo
    • Satchel Victory Psychology Today
    • The Sandlot

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    1 hr

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