Episodes

  • Bill Holston Believes in Safe Housing for All

    Bill Holston Believes in Safe Housing for All
    May 7 2025
    Bill Holston, CEO of Dallas Eviction Advocacy Center, joins us today on the pod! We hear from Bill about eviction advocacy, the importance of all people having access to representation and safe housing, as well as how he finds connection and rest in nature during these trying times. What can we learn when we reflect on the slow movement of the trout lily? Bill reminds us that oftentimes advocacy work begins with noticing what’s happening in our towns and to our neighbors. What have you noticed lately that breaks your heart or invites you into advocacy?
    By all means, pay attention, and get started on the good work of doing your good work, friends.

    Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):
    • Human Rights Initiative of North Texas
    • Faith Commons
    • Eviction Advocacy Center - Donate to help support Bill’s work on evictions
    • Spring Creek Forest Preserve
    • Greenland Hills Methodist Church
    • Book - The Myth of Certainty by Daniel Taylor
    • Mission Tejas State Park
    • Deep Vellum Publishing
    • Vaclav Havel Quote - The Politics of Hope chapter from Disturbing the Peace
    • Bill Holston on Instagram for nature pictures
    • May by Mary Oliver

    Chapters
    00:00 The Beauty of Nature and Spirituality
    03:04 Pilgrimage: A Journey of Purpose
    06:02 Nature's Influence on Personal Growth
    09:01 Justice and Advocacy: A Life's Calling
    11:49 Faith and Activism: A Complex Relationship
    14:51 Dallas: A City of History and Justice
    18:10 Nature's Tenacity and Fragility
    21:05 The Importance of Companionship in the Journey
    33:45 Finding a Church That Aligns with Values
    34:10 The Role of Churches in Social Justice
    36:34 The Gap Between Desire and Action
    39:18 Practical Solutions for Asylum Seekers
    42:08 Finding Beauty in Nature
    46:30 The Power of Small Actions
    49:42 Navigating Hope and Despair
    52:43 Understanding Hope vs. Optimism
    55:35 Connecting with Community and Nature
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    1 hr
  • Rev. Tim Clifford Invites Us to Reengage Joy

    Rev. Tim Clifford Invites Us to Reengage Joy
    Apr 30 2025
    This week we chat with Rev. Tim Clifford about his journey out of cynicism and how he’s learning to reengage with joy. Tim’s substack, Theology of a Recovering Cynic, follows his movement back towards a truer version of himself through endurance sports, theology, TTRPG’s, imagination, and more. In these dark times it can be tempting to give into cynicism and hopelessness. Rev. Tim reminds us that we can walk a different path, one that’s intentional and filled with curiosity and connection.

    Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):
    • Theology of a Recovering Cynic
    • Arlington Heights UMC
    • Encounter Worship Fort Worth
    • Thomas J. Oord
    • Dan McClellan
    • Tripp Fuller
    • Tim on Bluesky
    • Radical Sacred at Wild Goose
    • Epiphany by Sophie Strand
    • Remember by Joy Harjo

    Chapters
    00:00 The Power of Love and Connection
    06:29 Endurance and Personal Growth
    10:55 The Nature of Love
    15:45 Theological Reflections on Power
    20:00 Endurance Sports and Spiritual Resilience
    28:00 The Importance of Self-Care in Ministry
    29:53 Overcoming Cynicism Through Endurance
    31:23 Guides on the Journey: Theological and Athletic
    34:03 Finding Inspiration in Community
    35:17 The Meditative Nature of Endurance Sports
    37:04 Rest and Hobbies: Balancing Life and Wellness
    40:16 Creation as a Route Away from Cynicism
    42:30 Integrating Theology and Daily Life
    43:00 Connecting Through Community and Events
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    42 mins
  • Pilgrimage with Pegasus

    Pilgrimage with Pegasus
    Apr 23 2025
    This week’s episode is a creative and soulful collab with Stephanie Adelina and Satchel Victory of Pegasus Tattoo and Wellness! While Stephanie gives Jenny a gorgeous strawberry tattoo we chat about trauma informed care, creating safe spaces for everyone, therapy and the coming together of all of the above. Steph and Satchel share with us about being partners in life and in business and all the ways care, connection, and community can bring us together. What happens when tattooing and wellness are combined in an inclusive space? Join us to find out!

    Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):

    • The Strawberry Poem by Keaton St. James
    • Pegasus on Insta
    • Pegasus Tattoo
    • Satchel Victory Psychology Today
    • The Sandlot

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    1 hr
  • BONUS - Easter Vigil

    BONUS - Easter Vigil
    Apr 19 2025
    On this bonus episode we talk about vigil and the things that call to the depths of our hearts. What can’t you turn away from? What is currently calling you to deep attention and care? We chat about swans, the weird wildness of the Easter Vigil, following our joy and our heartbreak, and everything in between. May you turn your loving gaze to the places and spaces that invite you into vigil. And may your loving gaze be the spark that ignites the flame of your actions.

    Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways):
    • Radical Sacred will be at Wild Goose Fest
    • Get tickets for the Wild Goose, use code A-RS for a $50 discount
    • Dogfish by Mary Oliver
    • UMC tradition of Easter Vigil

    Chapters
    00:00 Introduction to Radical Sacred and Wild Goose Festival
    04:01 Easter Vigil: A Time of Reflection
    08:09 The Importance of Sitting Vigil
    11:55 Experiencing Grief and Loss
    15:58 The Journey of Vigil and Resurrection
    19:57 Nature as a Source of Vigil
    24:08 The Complexity of Modern Church Services
    27:50 Finding Joy in Vigil
    31:55 The Call to Attention and Action
    36:05 Conclusion: Embracing the Fullness of Life
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    36 mins
  • Church of the Wild Field Guide Conversation with Victoria Loorz and Valerie Luna Serrels

    Church of the Wild Field Guide Conversation with Victoria Loorz and Valerie Luna Serrels
    Apr 16 2025
    We chat with Victoria Loorz and Valerie Luna Serrels about their fabulous new offering: Field Guide to the Church of the Wild. Victoria and Valerie are sisters who create uniquely wild offerings through Seminary of the Wild Earth, eco spiritual direction training and more. In this honest and deeply rooted conversation we learn how Victoria and Valerie are creating a mycelial hub for the emerging wild spirituality movement. When we listen to the wild call of our hearts what might we discover? How can being in relationship with the more than human earth transform how we see all things?

    Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):
    • Field Guide to the Church of the Wild
    • Seminary of the Wild Earth
    • Sheri Kling
    • The Holy Wild Podcast
    • Coffee Cup Spirituality- Susan Alker


    Chapters
    00:00 Listening to the Land: A Spiritual Practice
    10:07 Reimagining Roles and Language in Spiritual Leadership
    20:00 The Intersection of Process Theology and Wild Church
    29:51 Rituals as a Means of Connection and Healing
    39:47 Witnessing Urban Nature: Finding the Wild in Concrete
    44:05 Technology and Nature: A New Paradigm
    49:50 Embracing Grief and Joy in Community
    54:44 Reciprocity: The Essence of Relationships
    59:56 Finding Sacredness in Place
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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • Hunter Mobley on the Enneagram and Contemplation: The Journey Back to Who You Are

    Hunter Mobley on the Enneagram and Contemplation: The Journey Back to Who You Are
    Apr 9 2025
    This week we are joined by Hunter Mobley, Enneagram teacher, speaker, and author of the fabulous new book Letting Go, Finding You. We dive deep with Hunter into contemplation and the Enneagram. If “contemplation is a long loving look”, how might Enneagram wisdom and contemplating flow together? Hunter invites us into a gentler, more hope filled way of viewing the Enneagram and ourselves.



    • Letting Go, Finding You by: Hunter Mobley
    • Hunter’s Website
    • 40 Days of Being a 2 by: Hunter Mobley
    • Life in the Trinity Ministry
    • How to Be Alone by Padraig O’Tuama
    Chapters
    00:00 The Journey of Self-Discovery
    02:20 Introduction to the Enneagram
    03:48 Pilgrimage and the Enneagram
    07:22 Contemplation and Spirituality
    12:05 Personal Journey and Integration
    20:47 The Journey of Contemplation
    23:19 Contemplation and the Heart Center
    27:53 Understanding the Enneagram and Contemplation
    33:59 Empathy and the Enneagram
    37:17 The Interconnection of Wisdom Traditions
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    44 mins
  • John Philip Newell on St. Brigid and Finding the Address of our Hearts

    John Philip Newell on St. Brigid and Finding the Address of our Hearts
    Apr 2 2025
    We are honored and delighted to have this gorgeous conversation with the one and only John Phillip Newell. John Phillip chats with us about St. Brigid, having rituals in these unsettling times, connection to the earth, and everything in between. As we stand in the thresholds of life, how might we draw upon the courage and wisdom of St. Brigid? John Phillip invites us to delight in where we are and to find the addresses of our own hearts, wherever they may dwell.
    Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):
    • Sacred Earth, Sacred Soul
    • EcoVillage, Findhorn Scotland
    • Iona Abbey
    • The Great Search
    • Matthew Fox
    • Earth & Soul
    Chapters
    00:00 Awakening to the Divine Within
    02:25 Journey to Fintorn: A Sacred Community
    06:32 The Essence of Pilgrimage
    17:20 Attention as Prayer: A Mindful Approach
    21:48 St. Bridget: Myth and Midwifery
    28:04 Imagination and Prophetic Wisdom
    32:53 Imagining a New Future
    33:57 Bridging Wisdom Traditions
    34:55 Responding to Authority and Generosity
    39:45 The Spirit of Our Time
    43:57 Understanding Brokenness vs. Woundedness
    51:00 The Role of Ritual in Transformation
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    1 hr
  • Journey to Building an Inclusive Future with Mary Jo Schnell

    Journey to Building an Inclusive Future with Mary Jo Schnell
    Mar 26 2025
    Humbled by this lovely conversation with the Executive Director of OutCenter, Mary Jo Schnell. Mary Jo talks to us about leading with empathy and listening deeply to all people, even those we fundamentally disagree with. We can’t connect with others in meaningful ways if we don’t “stay at the table.” Mary Jo walks us through a vision of building an inclusive future rooted in community, equality for all, and intersectionality. May we each be the vision bearers and light bringers for such a beautiful future.

    Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):
    • OutCenter
    • On Tyranny by Timothy Snyder
    • How to Stand Up to a Dictator - Maria Ressa
    • My Gender is the Undoing of Gender by Andrea Gibson
    • Good Grief by Andrea Gibson

    Chapters
    00:00 The Journey of Self-Discovery
    02:41 The Role of the Out Center
    05:12 Mary Jo's Background and Nonprofit Experience
    10:25 Building Community and Support for LGBTQ Youth
    16:15 The Importance of Education and Advocacy
    21:24 Navigating Systemic Challenges
    26:17 Guides and Influences on the Journey
    36:30 The Unmasking of the Movement
    38:29 Community Resilience and Local Action
    43:42 Empathy as a Tool for Connection
    48:53 Navigating Tyranny and Advocacy
    58:54 The Importance of Staying at the Table
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    1 hr and 12 mins