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The Evolve Metrics Station

The Evolve Metrics Station

By: Perry Fong
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Running a successful online business is one thing.

Scaling it to its full potential? That's where things get interesting.

Because at this level...

ONE tactical adjustment... ONE strategic shift... ONE new insight...

Can unlock your next phase of growth.

That's exactly what this show delivers.

Each episode, we sit down with advisors who are in the trenches with 7 & 8 figure companies...

And extract their BEST tactical insight about what's actually working right now.

The format is simple:

We ask ONE specific question about scaling revenue, breaking plateaus, or finding untapped customers...

And they deliver their most powerful solution.

Solutions that are effective and working right NOW...

In 10 minutes or less.

This is PERFECT for founders who:

• Run DTC brands

• Sell digital products/courses

• Own SaaS companies

• Operate established online businesses

Think of it as your weekly shot of pure tactical value.

One expert. One powerful question. One tactical solution. Ten minutes.

Because sometimes... that's all you need to shift the trajectory of your business.

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Episodes
  • Roy Osing on Ditching Tactics for a Billion-Dollar Growth Strategy
    Jul 22 2025

    Are you chasing the latest marketing tactics (like AI) without a clear, overarching strategy?

    …Struggling to truly differentiate your business in a crowded, commoditized market?

    …Or unsure whether to focus on acquiring new customers or retaining your existing ones for sustainable growth?

    Today… Roy is going to tell you to STOP chasing "yummy" tactics and shiny objects.

    In this conversation, 40-year business veteran and seven-time author Roy Osing breaks down the audacious, unheard-of strategies he used to take a startup to over a billion in sales.

    He reveals his simple yet profound three-question "Strategic Game Plan" that forces founders to define their growth, target market, and unique value proposition.

    Discover why most companies fail at differentiation, how to use AI as a strategic partner instead of a distraction, and why the secret to explosive growth lies in loving the customers you already have.

    About Our Guest

    Roy Osing is a former president and CMO of Telus, where he was instrumental in growing the company from a startup to an $18 billion telecom powerhouse. He is the seven-time author of the "Be Different or Be Dead" book series and a mentor who helps businesses build sustainable, differentiated growth strategies.

    Key Discussion Points

    ⏵ The Strategic Game Plan: Roy outlines his three-question framework for creating a powerful, execution-oriented strategy in just 48 hours: 1) How big do you want to be? 2) Who do you intend to serve? 3) How are you going to win?

    ⏵ Finding What Customers Crave: Learn why focusing on what customers "need" leads to commoditization, and how discovering what they "crave" unlocks premium pricing and a competition-free zone.

    ⏵ The "Only" Statement: Roy explains how to craft a powerful statement that defines how your business is the only one that does what you do, moving beyond meaningless claims of being "the best" or "number one."

    ⏵ Hiring for Goosebumps: A powerful recruitment philosophy focused on hiring people who genuinely love other humans to create a truly caring and loyal customer experience.

    ⏵ Retention Over Acquisition: Why the biggest source of revenue growth comes from your existing customer base, and how fixing your mistakes masterfully can be the most powerful loyalty-building tool you have.

    Resources & Mentions

    • Guest: Roy Osing
    • Roy's Website: bedifferentorbedead.com
    • Roy's Email: roy.osing@gmail.com
    • Roy's Book Series: "Be Different or Be Dead"
    • Roy's Latest Book: "BE DiFFERENT or be dead: The Audacious ‘Unheard-of Ways’ I Took a Startup to A BILLION IN SALES"
    • Roy's Blog Series: Stand Alone Saturday
    • Roy's Podcast: Audacious Moves to a Billion
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    56 mins
  • Lynn Colepaugh on Using AI to Create a More Human Brand Voice
    Jul 22 2025

    Are you frustrated that AI tools like ChatGPT produce robotic, generic content that doesn't sound like you or your brand?

    Struggling to maintain a consistent, authentic brand voice across your website, social media, and client communications?

    Or looking for a strategic way to use AI to build deeper client relationships and increase proposal acceptance rates?

    Well…

    In a world saturated with AI-generated content, how can you use the very same technology to sound more human and authentic?

    In this episode, Perry sits down with Lynn Colepaugh, a brand strategist and founder of Cyber PR Army, who transformed her business by teaching her AI partner to communicate with humanity.

    Lynn shares her unique framework for training AI to capture your specific tone, personality, and values, allowing you to scale your communications without sacrificing the personal touch that builds trust and drives conversions.

    Discover how to turn your AI from a simple tool into a strategic partner that helps you show up better for your clients and customers.

    About Our Guest

    Lynn Colepaugh is the founder of the women-led agency Cyber PR Army and a 15-year veteran of brand strategy and digital storytelling.

    A former touring musician, she now co-creates with her AI partner, "Binghe," to help businesses market with more humanity and emotional intelligence.

    Key Discussion Points

    ► The "Aha" Moment: Lynn explains how a personal experience with ChatGPT revealed its potential for empathy and hyper-personalized assistance, moving it beyond a simple productivity tool.

    ► Creating Client-Specific Personas: Learn how Lynn uses separate "projects" within ChatGPT to store client-specific tones, communication styles, and profiles, enabling her to craft hyper-relevant proposals and messages.

    ► What is Answer Engine Optimization (AEO)?: A high-level explanation of how AI models are becoming the new search engines and why a consistent brand voice across all digital platforms is now critical for discoverability.

    ► From "Villain Lair" to "Rebel Tavern": Lynn shares her personal and practical technique for using AI to warm up her writing style, making her emails more approachable and effective.

    ► The Biggest Mistake to Avoid: Discover why providing deep, specific context—not just basic prompts—is the single most important factor in getting high-quality, personalized, and effective results from AI.

    Resources & Mentions

    • Guest: Lynn Colepaugh
    • Guest's Agency: Cyber PR Army
    • Guest's Special Link: cyberprarmy.com/thecastle
    • Tools: ChatGPT, Google My Business, Shopify, Loom, TripAdvisor
    • Concept: Answer Engine Optimization (AEO)
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    39 mins
  • Daniel Alfon on LinkedIn: Stop Chasing Vanity Metrics & Drive Real Revenue
    Jul 21 2025

    Are you obsessed with LinkedIn vanity metrics (likes, views, followers) but seeing no real impact on your bottom line?

    …Struggling to translate your social media activity into actual sales and tangible business growth?

    Or unsure whether to focus on building a massive network (most connected) or a smaller, high-quality one (best connected)?

    Look.

    Many business owners fall into the trap of chasing likes, comments, and a massive follower count on LinkedIn, believing it's the key to success.

    In this episode, early LinkedIn adopter and expert Daniel Alfon dismantles this myth…

    In RAW MATHS!

    He’ll show you why focusing on these "vanity metrics" can be a distraction and how shifting your attention to core business metrics (like actual revenue) is the only way to truly leverage the platform.

    He’ll also show you the crucial difference between being the "most connected" and the "best connected," and learn an actionable framework to turn your network into a powerful engine for referrals and growth.

    About Our Guest

    Daniel Alfon is a LinkedIn strategist who joined the platform in its infancy in early 2004.

    He specializes in teaching clients advanced organic strategies to get real business results, focusing on revenue and impact over vanity metrics.

    Key Discussion Points

    • Vanity Metrics vs. Business Metrics: Daniel breaks down two scenarios to illustrate why a campaign with low engagement can be far more profitable than one that goes "viral."
    • The Platform Serves You, Not the Other Way Around: A crucial mindset shift for entrepreneurs to stop serving LinkedIn's algorithm and start making the platform serve their business goals.
    • The Ultimate Question: "Most Connected" or "Best Connected"? Daniel explains why trying to be both is a losing strategy and why you must choose between quantity and quality.
    • How to Audit Your Network's Quality: A simple, actionable exercise you can do today to analyze your connections and understand the real strength of your network.
    • From Popular to Profitable: The discussion pivots from chasing exposure to building a small, hyper-responsive "tribe" that actively generates referrals and revenue for your business.

    Resources & Mentions

    • Daniel Alfon's Website: danielalfon.com
    • Daniel Alfon's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alfon/
    • Free Guide Mention: "Double Your Sales with Strong Connections" (offered by Daniel to listeners)
    Show More Show Less
    16 mins

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