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Curious Business: Insights for B2B Growth

Curious Business: Insights for B2B Growth

By: Stephen Morris | Focused on B2B Growth
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Curious Business is the B2B marketing and growth podcast with ideas and insights to help you think differently about your business, its challenges and opportunities. B2B marketing expert Stephen Morris talks to entrepreneurs, leaders and experts to uncover business inspiration, marketing insights and growth ideas that you can apply in your business.Copyright 2025 All rights reserved. Economics Leadership Management Management & Leadership Marketing Marketing & Sales
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  • Can business people create software now? Nigel Jay Cooper on developing with AI
    Feb 11 2026

    What happens when a professional writer who finds AI-generated content "quite horrific" decides to build an AI writing platform to help people show up more authentically on LinkedIn? With AI as his development team?

    Nigel Jay Cooper found himself in exactly that position. He'd spent a decade training professionals and teams in employee advocacy to create authentic LinkedIn content and was determined to fight the flood of ‘beige’ content generated by ChatGPT et al - thoughtless, generic posts lacking personality and spark.

    His first instinct was to fight against AI. But when everyone kept using it anyway, he realised he was fighting the wrong battle. The question wasn't whether people would use AI. The question was: can they use it in a way that reflects their personality, experience and humanity? So he set out to build Ghostart, even though he's not a software developer.

    Listen to this episode of Curious Business as Nigel shares how he built Ghostart over the past year, and discusses:

    • The beige content crisis: Why AI-generated LinkedIn posts are "soul destroying" and how people remove themselves from their own voice
    • Building with AI: Using different models for different purposes, learning through trial and error, and managing the "700,000 suggestions you didn't want" that the LLMs tend to spit out
    • The technical journey: From two aborted platform attempts to the approach that makes AI development productive and effective
    • The Beige-ometer: Training an AI writing coach in rhythm, emotion, and storytelling - not optimising to LinkedIn's algorithm
    • Why your beta test should make you feel ashamed: The essential advice that propelled the platform forward

    Chapters:

    0:01:06 - The Beige Content Problem

    0:04:27 - Who Ghost Art Serves

    0:09:10 - Building with AI - The Vibe Coding Reality

    0:11:47 - Tools and Techniques

    0:17:31 - Keeping AI Focused

    0:21:20 - The Hardest Parts to Build

    0:27:17 - The Beta Launch

    0:30:53 - What Users Actually Valued

    0:35:47 - Lessons and Success

    Links:

    More about Ghostart and try it free: https://ghostart.io

    Request a demo: https://ghostart.io/teams/demo

    Connect with Nigel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nigeljaycooper/

    -- Thanks for listening.

    Curious Business is here to bring you insights, experiences and ideas from founders, leaders and experts to help you think differently about your business and its marketing. My name is Stephen Morris and I help start-ups and scale-ups get momentum in their marketing and pipeline. Like to know more? Book a discovery call: https://www.curiousbusiness.co.uk/discovery/ Or sign-up to 'The Prompt' my monthly newsletter: https://www.curiousbusiness.co.uk/signup/ If you'd like to talk about how podcasts can build reach, enhance authority and fuel your pipeline, visit: www.curiousbusiness.co.uk.

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    35 mins
  • How Broken Systems Lock People Out and How AI Can Help | The LINDA Project
    Jan 28 2026

    Imagine being told someone you love is dying, and then discovering they have been trapped in a coercive and controlling relationship. You'd turn to a number of agencies to seek help, guidance and justice. But it turns out you often need to know the 'magic words' to unlock that help. In this episode of Curious Business, Stephen Midgley recounts how he navigated those challenges and leaned on Chat GPT and his background as a systems architect, to do something about it - for his mum, and now for others too. What follows is equal parts heartbreaking and baffling, as Stephen moves between police, hospitals, the care system, and other agencies. Each has their own language, arcane forms and reasons to say no, it seems.

    Upon being bounced between agencies, the compassion of frontline staff was undermined by broken processes, so Stephen turned to AI. What began as a query on ChatGPT became a practical set of tools that can help others facing the same awful challenges.

    Stephen describes balancing his time between building crude, command-line tools with spending precious hours with his mother. The system he’s developing, named LINDA in memory of his mum, is a translator, memory bank, assistant and also a tool to support charities working in the space. He wants to make hidden pathways visible and give people the options they often aren't told about.

    What we cover:

    • What can happen when you ask for help
    • The "password problem": how using the wrong words can lock you out of help
    • Three patterns of broken systems
    • The LINDA tools: Using AI to translate policy language, surface hidden options, and compare policies against your experiences
    • Why AI should augment human support, not replace it
    • The 'non-crime' database field and his campaign for more transparency

    Links and Resources:

    • The LINDA Project: https://www.keec.online/linda/
    • Change.org petition for transparency on domestic abuse non-crime closures: https://www.change.org/p/justice-for-linda-and-for-every-abuse-victim-erased-from-the-system
    • Stephen's original AI for the Rest of Us presentation: https://youtu.be/CkqwNYQIh6U?si=97nHD52r_49_j2tJ

    Charities mentioned:

    • AAFDA – supporting families bereaved by domestic abuse: https://aafda.org.uk/

    Disclaimer: Stephen Midgley is not a legal professional and nothing in this episode constitutes legal advice.

    Thanks to Jari Worsley for sharing Stephen's 'AI For The Rest of Us' talk with me in the first place: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jariworsley/

    -- Thanks for listening.

    Curious Business is here to bring you insights, experiences and ideas to help you think differently about your business and marketing. My name is Stephen Morris and I help start-ups and scale-ups gain clarity, take action and ignite momentum in their marketing and pipeline. Like to know more? Book a discovery call: https://www.curiousbusiness.co.uk/discovery/ Or sign-up to 'The Prompt' my monthly newsletter: https://www.curiousbusiness.co.uk/signup/ If you'd like to talk about how podcasts can build reach, enhance authority and fuel your pipeline, visit: www.curiousbusiness.co.uk.

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    54 mins
  • The Platform Playbook: Leeya Hendricks on Ecosystem-Led B2B Growth
    Jan 8 2026

    With ecosystems increasingly outperforming standalone firms, marketing leaders’ key skills may lie in their ability to get their organisations to influence, persuade, enable, and collaborate. In an ever-noisier and more complex market, the companies that can co-create, communicate and change to bring customers value tend to be the winners - but it requires a very different approach.

    In this episode, former three-time global CMO Leeya Hendricks makes the case for platform thinking in B2B marketing, where value is co-created across networks of customers, partners and complementors rather than pushed through linear channels.

    She shares insights from her new book The Platform Playbook and explains why the CMO is uniquely positioned to orchestrate ecosystem growth - connecting product, technology, data and partners around shared value.

    What We Cover:

    • Why "platforms over pipelines" is the future of B2B marketing
    • The three misconceptions holding organisations back from platform thinking
    • A practical four-dimension framework for operating marketing as a platform
    • Why the funnel was always just a convenient model, not reality
    • How to measure ecosystem health beyond traditional marketing metrics
    • The unexpected cultural transformation that happens when organisations embrace co-creation

    Key Takeaways

    1. Platforms aren't technology - they're business models and systems of value creation
    2. Customers trust ecosystems, not isolated brands
    3. Sharing multiplies value in ecosystems, even though leaders fear it dilutes value
    4. The CMO's role is to make silos more permeable, not destroy them
    5. Think long-term stickiness, not short-term campaigns

    About Leeya Hendricks

    Leeya is the author of The Platform Playbook (Palgrave Macmillan), Managing Director of Hark Consultants, and has served in three global CMO roles across major technology companies including IBM and Oracle. She lectures in digital ecosystems and orchestration, and runs My Barre Vibes, a digital-first fitness platform.

    Connect with Leeya on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-leeya-hendricks-120b95a/

    Order The Platform Playbook (affiliate link): https://uk.bookshop.org/a/15792/9783032080301

    Find out more about My Barre Vibes: https://www.mybarrevibes.com/

    -- Thanks for listening.

    Curious Business is here to bring you insights, experiences and ideas to help you think differently about your business and marketing. My name is Stephen Morris and I help start-ups and scale-ups gain clarity, take action and ignite momentum in their marketing and pipeline. Like to know more? Book a discovery call: https://www.curiousbusiness.co.uk/discovery/ Or sign-up to 'The Prompt' my monthly newsletter: https://www.curiousbusiness.co.uk/signup/ If you'd like to talk about how podcasts can build reach, enhance authority and fuel your pipeline, visit: www.curiousbusiness.co.uk.

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