Between 2 Hats: LFG

By: Patrick Osman & Phillip Burton
  • Summary

  • Between 2 Hats is a dynamic podcast hosted by Patrick and Phil, where they dive into business, life, entrepreneurship, and the world of sales, especially within the SFR (Single-Family Rental) industry. But beyond just business, the heart of the podcast is about people.

    Each episode features interesting guests with unique talents and experiences, giving listeners a behind-the-scenes look at their personal journeys. Instead of just focusing on success stories, Patrick and Phil aim to uncover the human side of entrepreneurship—what drives people, the challenges they’ve overcome, and what makes them tick.

    Listeners can expect real conversations, insightful takeaways, and a mix of humor and wisdom as they navigate through experiences in sales, investing, and life in general. It’s all about connections, stories, and getting to know people beyond their professional titles.

    The podcast is perfect for anyone looking for inspiration, real talk about business, or engaging conversations with fascinating people.

    © 2025 Between 2 Hats: LFG
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Episodes
  • Jennifer Krenson: Operations, Parenthood & the Power of Listening
    May 7 2025

    🎧 Episode 8 — Jennifer Krenson: Operations, Parenthood & the Power of Listening

    She didn’t just grow with the industry — she helped define it.

    From leasing apartments with a paper application to running operations for 4,300+ homes, Jennifer Krenson has lived every side of this game.

    📈 Multi-family, SFR, and now BTR — she’s seen it all.
    💥 Faced the doubters.
    🚧 Built teams from scratch.
    🏠 And stayed grounded in the real why: creating homes, building community, and solving housing shortages.

    This isn’t theory — it’s lived experience from one of the SFR/BTR industry’s most respected operators.

    And on this pod? She’s real about ALL of it:
    → The doubts when jumping to SFR
    → The chaos of scaling from site teams to fleets
    → Blended family life + when parenting shifts from control to connection
    → And yes… even skydiving stories that make it all make sense.

    You want leadership?
    You want relatable?
    You want real?

    This episode delivers.

    📢 New episodes drop every Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!

    📲 Follow us on social media:
    📸 Instagram: @between2hats
    📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG

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    1 hr and 12 mins
  • The Future of Property Data: Luke Tomaszewski and the Rise of ProxyPics
    Apr 30 2025

    This week on Between 2 Hats, we sit down with Luke Tomaszewski — founder of ProxyPics and a true game-changer in the world of real estate data collection.

    From grinding out 18-hour days in his car as an appraiser to launching one of the most innovative tech platforms in the industry, Luke’s story is proof that frustration can fuel billion-dollar ideas.
    Tired of wasting hours driving for simple exterior photos, he decided to fix the problem himself — and ProxyPics was born.

    Today, ProxyPics is reshaping how businesses collect property and site data across the U.S., Guam, Puerto Rico, and Canada, with over 185,000 active data collectors. Whether it's storm damage checks, commercial building scans, or tenant self-inspections, Luke’s platform is cutting out the middleman — delivering real-time, unbiased information like never before.

    We dive deep into his early days, how one app is disrupting entire industries, and what it really takes to build a tech empire from scratch.

    💥 This one’s for the builders, the thinkers, and the problem-solvers. Don't miss it.

    📢 New episodes drop every Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!

    📲 Follow us on social media:
    📸 Instagram: @between2hats
    📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG

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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • Mortgage Queen: Beth O’Brien’s Billion-Dollar Blueprint
    Apr 23 2025

    Beth O’Brien didn’t just step into the mortgage industry — she redefined it.

    In this episode of Between 2 Hats LFG, we sit down with the powerhouse herself — Beth O’Brien, Founder & CEO of Encore Finance, and one of the most influential women in real estate finance. With over $20 billion in transactions under her belt and a legacy that spans Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Auction.com, and CoreVest, Beth breaks down the mindset, grit, and moves that built her empire.

    We dive into her transition from Wall Street to real estate, how she became a pioneer in the SFR (Single-Family Rental) finance world, and why new generations are shifting toward renting. Beth also shares unfiltered insights on the mortgage industry, capital markets, and what it takes to lead with power in a male-dominated space.

    From law school to loan strategies, she’s done it all — and she’s not slowing down.

    This episode is for the builders, the risk-takers, and anyone who’s ready to learn from one of the most badass leaders in the game.

    📢 New episodes drop every Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!

    📲 Follow us on social media:
    📸 Instagram: @between2hats
    📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG

    #WomenInBusiness #SFRIndustry #RealEstateLeadership #TrishBeeman #BusinessTalk #CareerShift #Leadership #SFRLeader #WomenInRealEstate #LinkedInPodcasts #Between2HatsLFG

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    1 hr and 2 mins

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