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Between 2 Hats: LFG

Between 2 Hats: LFG

By: Patrick Osman & Phillip Burton
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Between 2 Hats is a dynamic podcast hosted by Patrick and Phil, where they dive into business, life, entrepreneurship, and the world of sales, especially within the SFR (Single-Family Rental) industry. But beyond just business, the heart of the podcast is about people.

Each episode features interesting guests with unique talents and experiences, giving listeners a behind-the-scenes look at their personal journeys. Instead of just focusing on success stories, Patrick and Phil aim to uncover the human side of entrepreneurship—what drives people, the challenges they’ve overcome, and what makes them tick.

Listeners can expect real conversations, insightful takeaways, and a mix of humor and wisdom as they navigate through experiences in sales, investing, and life in general. It’s all about connections, stories, and getting to know people beyond their professional titles.

The podcast is perfect for anyone looking for inspiration, real talk about business, or engaging conversations with fascinating people.

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Episodes
  • Jeffrey Tesch: How Discipline Built a Real Estate Empire
    Oct 8 2025

    💼 From Subway to SFR Success | Jeffrey Tesch on Discipline, Cash Flow & Leadership

    In this episode of Between 2 Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Erik Burton sit down with Jeffrey Tesch, CEO of RCN Capital, to talk about his journey from running Subway franchises to becoming one of the most respected voices in private lending and real estate investing.

    Jeff shares lessons from decades in the industry—on building relationships, maintaining discipline in any market, and spotting opportunities for cash flow even when the economy shifts. From his early days learning operations through sandwiches to leading a national lending firm, Jeff proves that mindset and consistency are the foundation of success.

    💡 Highlights from this episode:

    - How running a Subway franchise taught Jeff the fundamentals of business discipline
    - The power of personal connections in real estate and leadership
    - How to leverage equity and financing options for smarter investing
    - Why positive cash flow deals still exist—even with high interest rates
    - Building a winning culture through servant leadership and humility

    What today’s market means for individual investors and long-term growth

    This episode is packed with insights for real estate professionals, investors, and entrepreneurs looking to scale their mindset—and their portfolio.

    📢Tune in to Between 2 Hats every Wednesday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, and more. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!

    📲 Follow us on social media:
    📸 Instagram: @between2hats
    📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG

    #RealEstate #PrivateLending #Entrepreneurship #Leadership #PropertyManagement #SFR #BTR #Discipline #BusinessGrowth #Between2Hats

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    1 hr
  • Phil Yi: SFR, Entrepreneurship, & How RVP Changes Resident Benefits.
    Oct 1 2025

    🚀 Phil Yi: SFR, Entrepreneurship & How RVP Changes Resident Benefits

    In this episode of Between Two Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Phil Yi—a former Navy submariner, McKinsey alum, and now CEO of Starship Residential and Chief Commercial Officer at Utility Valet.

    Phil shares his inspiring journey from military service to the startup and real estate world, unpacking the timeless lessons of entrepreneurship, the role of trust in business relationships, and why cash flow and NOI are non-negotiables for scaling success.

    💡 Highlights from this episode:

    How Phil’s Navy background shaped his leadership and business strategy
    The emotional resilience needed to thrive in entrepreneurship and startups
    The balance between competition vs. collaboration in the SFR (Single-Family Rental) and BTR (Build-to-Rent) industries
    Why sales skills and consumer experience drive long-term success
    The launch of Utility Valet’s Resident Value Package (RVP)—a new approach to utility services and resident benefits designed to boost NOI and improve property cash flow

    This conversation blends practical business insights with personal stories, offering valuable takeaways for anyone in real estate, property management, or entrepreneurship.

    🎧 Don’t miss this deep dive into scaling trust, cash flow, and innovative solutions like RVP in today’s evolving market.


    📢 New episodes drop on Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!

    📲 Follow us on social media:
    📸 Instagram: @between2hats
    📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG

    #Entrepreneurship #RealEstate #PropertyManagement #SFR #BTR #ResidentBenefits #RVP #UtilityValet

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    1 hr and 23 mins
  • From Samoa to CEO: Adam Haleck on Scaling Northpoint & Redefining Property Management
    Sep 25 2025

    In Episode 15 of Between Two Hats, Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton welcome Adam Haleck, CEO of Northpoint Asset Management, for a deep dive into the world of property management and real estate leadership.

    From his beginnings in American Samoa to building a nationwide presence in SFR and BTR, Adam shares his journey of resilience, growth, and what it takes to lead in today’s competitive real estate market. He opens up about the importance of building authentic connections, the role of technology in creating seamless resident experiences, and why transparency and accountability are essential for lasting success.

    The conversation dives into how a winning culture is built—one that empowers teams, prioritizes resident satisfaction, and adapts to market challenges. Adam also reflects on the lessons learned from scaling Northpoint across multiple states and markets, proving that strong relationships remain at the heart of every business.

    In a powerful closing segment, Patrick, Phillip, and Adam address the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk. Together, they condemn political violence, share empathy for Charlie’s family, and highlight the urgent need for respectful dialogue in today’s divided world.

    Whether you’re an investor, property manager, or simply passionate about the future of real estate, this episode delivers valuable lessons on leadership, culture, and the human side of business.

    📢 New episodes drop every Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!

    📲 Follow us on social media:
    📸 Instagram: @between2hats
    📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG

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    58 mins
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