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At the Water's Edge

At the Water's Edge

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Geo-politics and national security from the practitioner's seat. Insight beyond the headlines.

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  • #24 The Evolution of Close Air Support from WWII to GWOT with Dr. Steve Call
    May 16 2025

    summary

    In this conversation, Dr. Steve Call discusses the evolution of air support in military operations, focusing on the role of Tactical Air Controllers (TACPs) and the historical context of air-ground integration. He highlights lessons learned from World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War, emphasizing the importance of close air support (CAS) in modern warfare. Dr. Call also addresses current challenges facing CAS and the future of air support in the military, advocating for a deeper understanding of operational concepts versus strategies.

    takeaways

    • ALO tours were seen as a dark hole in careers.
    • American military integrates air support tightly with ground units.
    • The history of air-ground coordination is rich and complex.
    • Lessons from WWII shaped modern air support strategies.
    • Post-WWII, the Air Force focused on strategic bombing over CAS.
    • Korean War required a reinvention of CAS tactics.
    • Vietnam War established NCOs as key players in air support.
    • Desert Storm showcased the effectiveness of CAS.
    • Post-9/11 operations highlighted the need for coordination.
    • Current trends threaten the effectiveness of CAS.

    Chapters

    00:00
    Introduction to Steve Call

    04:43
    Steve's Military Background and Education

    08:57
    The Evolution of Tactical Air Control

    12:48
    The Importance of Air-Ground Integration

    16:48
    Historical Context of Close Air Support

    20:57
    The Dilemma of Air and Ground Forces

    24:46
    Post-War Air Power Perspectives

    28:56
    The Reinvention of Close Air Support

    32:48
    The Fighter Mafia and Its Impact

    36:53
    Lessons from History and Future Implications

    37:41
    The Impact of Desert Storm on Air Power

    41:35
    The Role of Close Air Support in Modern Warfare

    53:49
    Challenges Facing Close Air Support Today

    56:47
    The Future of Air Force Close Air Support

    01:03:55
    The A-10 vs. F-35 Debate

    01:06:48
    Final Thoughts on Close Air Support Strategy

    Dr. Steve Calls Books:

    Danger Close: Tactical Air Controllers in Afghanistan and IraqSelling Air Power: Military Aviation and American Popular Culture after World War II

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  • #23 Next Generation Strike UAVs with Ethan Thornton, CEO Mach Industries
    Mar 29 2025

    summary

    In this episode, Scott interviews Ethan Thornton, the 21-year-old CEO of Mock Industries, a defense technology startup focused on creating innovative unmanned systems. They discuss the transition from traditional defense strategies to a new era of great power competition, the challenges of government contracting, and the importance of decentralized manufacturing. Ethan shares insights on the development of their products, Viper and Glide, and the cultural shifts needed within the defense sector to foster innovation and agility.

    Mach Industries Website

    takeaways

    • Ethan Thornton is the CEO of Mock Industries, a defense tech startup.
    • Mock Industries focuses on creating unmanned systems for modern warfare.
    • The company aims to provide asymmetric capabilities to the U.S. military.
    • Ethan emphasizes the importance of decentralized manufacturing in defense.
    • The journey of building a startup in the defense sector is challenging but rewarding.
    • Government contracts can be navigated successfully with the right approach.
    • Cultural shifts are necessary within the defense bureaucracy to encourage innovation.
    • The future of warfare will heavily involve unmanned systems and technology.
    • Ethan's background as a tinkerer and engineer shapes his leadership style.
    • Building a strong team is crucial for the success of a startup.


    Chapters

    00:00
    Introduction to Mock Industries and Its Mission

    06:13
    Innovative Defense Technologies and Their Importance

    09:24
    The Viper: A Game-Changer in UAV Technology

    12:17
    Funding and Growth: From Idea to Reality

    15:21
    Navigating Government Contracts and Market Dynamics

    18:26
    Manufacturing Challenges and Strategies for Success

    29:18
    Contracting Vehicles and Prototyping Challenges

    32:26
    Balancing Capacity and Usability in Product Design

    35:54
    Business Models: The Key to Disruption in Defense

    39:49
    Building a Mission-Driven Team

    42:44
    Cultural Shifts Needed in the Defense Industrial Base

    46:44
    The Role of Unmanned Warfare in Modern Conflict

    50:58
    The Impact of Cultural Change on the Defense Sector

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  • E22 Trump's Foreign Policy with Jamie Miller
    Feb 27 2025

    Insights from Jamie Miller shed light on how Trump’s foreign policies align with the sentiments of his voter base. This episode reveals the evolving perceptions of national security among Americans and explores the implications behind Trump's strategic decisions.

    • Unpacking Trump's "America First" philosophy
    • The shift in Republican foreign policy strategy
    • Voter perceptions on immigration, safety, and national security
    • Understanding the implications of cabinet picks for Trump’s second term
    • The possible risks of hardline immigration policies on geopolitics
    • The evolving nature of America's role in global affairs

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    Jamie Miller's Blog: https://reasonablearguments.com/



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