• 254. From Sound to Safety: Understanding the Safe & Sound Protocol with Dr. Porges and Karen Onderko

  • Apr 22 2025
  • Length: 1 hr and 6 mins
  • Podcast

254. From Sound to Safety: Understanding the Safe & Sound Protocol with Dr. Porges and Karen Onderko

  • Summary

  • 💟 Join the Unstucking Academy - https://www.justinlmft.com/unstuckingacademy

    Justin Sunseri delves into the Safe and Sound Protocol (SSP) with Dr. Stephen Porges, the originator of the Polyvagal Theory, and Karen Onderko, co-author of the new book "Safe and Sound." Discover how SSP, a unique therapy using specifically filtered music, can help alleviate anxiety, depression, and sensory sensitivities by enhancing the nervous system's ability to experience safety. The discussion covers the science behind SSP, its clinical evidence, and its benefits for various conditions from autism to trauma. An insightful conversation that explores the potential of SSP as a neural exercise to aid in healing and resilience.

    Buy the book now - https://amzn.to/4cJ7f9I (Purchasing through this link will give me a portion of the sale at no extra cost to you)

    00:00 Intro to Stuck Not Broken

    01:52 What is the Safe and Sound Protocol?

    04:29 What is the evidence for SSP?

    08:31 What is the music of SSP?

    17:10 SSP and neuroplasticity

    19:22 Neural exercises, building safety, and SSP

    26:50 Trauma narratives and SSP

    28:50 Safety can lead to defense

    31:35 Who is SSP for?

    33:07 Autism and SSP

    39:39 SSP and co-regulation

    41:38 Skepticism of SSP

    47:07 Why not Safe and Sight or Safe and Smell?

    52:18 Is SSP a cure-all?

    57:44 Final thoughts and kindness

    59:12 SSP on the community level

    01:01:41 Department of Defense research grant

    01:04:05 Outro to Stuck Not Broken

    Resources:

    🔸 Free resources and course in the Members Center - https://www.justinlmft.com/members

    🔸 Join the Unstucking Academy - https://www.justinlmft.com/unstuckingacademy

    🔸 Polyvagal Intro webpage - https://www.justinlmft.com/polyvagalintro

    🔸 Stuck Not Broken book series - https://www.justinlmft.com/books

    🔸 Polyvagal 101 audio series - https://player.captivate.fm/collection/cce134e7-1550-4d33-8e56-738d344c63b0

    Crisis resources:

    • National Suicide Prevention Hotline - 1 (800) 273-8255
    • National Domestic Violence Hotline -1 (800) 799-7233
    • LGBT Trevor Project Lifeline - 1 (866) 488-7386
    • National Sexual Assault Hotline - 1 (800) 656-4673
    • Crisis Text Line - Text “HOME” to 741741
    • Call 911 for emergency

    This and other content produced by Justin Sunseri (“JustinLMFT”) (i.e; podcast, YouTube, Instagram, etc.) is not therapy, not intended to be therapy or be a replacement for therapy. Nothing in this creates or indicates a therapeutic relationship. Please consult with your therapist or seek for one in your area if you are experiencing mental health symptoms. Nothing should be construed to be specific life advice; it is for educational and entertainment purposes only.

    Justin Sunseri is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist registered in the State of California (#99147).

    Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast! When you do, you will immediately get the next episode as soon as it's available. What's better than having the next episode of SNB ready and waiting for you? (Nothing, that's what.)

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