In this episode, I sat down with the Happy Clients Podcast to talk about what’s working in agency sales right now, without the cringe, without the outdated playbooks, and without turning you into a full-time cold caller.

Most agencies can sell for their clients all day, but when it comes to their growth, things can get messy.

I’ve spent the better part of a decade helping agencies stop relying on “hope and referrals” and start building sales systems that work.

⏱ Timestamps

00:00 – The “spare-time sales” trap

00:29 – Why this matters for client-facing pros

01:19 – My path into agency sales

02:20 – The scaling pain you don’t see coming

04:41 – When referrals run dry

06:10 – Inbound vs outbound today

07:04 – The trust-first approach

09:23 – Making referrals predictable

11:48 – Why cold outreach is harder now

14:13 – Accountability in sales

16:32 – Quick wins with clarity and focus

18:53 – Opportunities hiding in plain sight

20:10 – Where to find me + my book

✨ Key Points

• Why loading sales onto busy account managers fails.
• How to turn your network into a steady pipeline.
• The simple way to make introductions effortless.
• Why agencies should own sales instead of outsourcing it.
• How clarity on your ideal client changes everything.

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