Yup you heard that right.

We know we sound crazy (and maybe we are a little) but in today’s completely unfiltered episode, we’re giving you the behind the scenes of one of the biggest (and scariest) decisions we’ve made in our business. We’ll tell you exactly why we did it, what we’re doing instead, and how this change has made our business leaner, simpler, and way more fun to run.

If you’ve ever wondered whether you really need a sales team, or if there’s a smarter, more profitable way to grow… This is your playbook.

You’ll hear:

• 09:02 - How having salespeople made us lazy marketers.. And what we’re doing now
• 11:02 - Where the $400k we were spending on commission goes now…
• 14:30 - the sales process that replaced dozens of calls (and converts faster)
• 18:00 - The checklist we used before making the jump
• 24:00 - Listener Q: When you should be using an offer doc instead of sales calls

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