Riley Hill returns to the show to join Jeff and Tom for a preview of WWDC 2025. What's coming from Apple? What kind of AI company should Apple be? And is there less hype than normal for this year's event?

The guys also throw around some thoughts on the big announcement that Jony Ive and OpenAI are working on a new type of AI-centered device. It doesn't sound like it's a phone or glasses, so what might it be? Is there a market for a new type of device?

Also, they sprinkle in some highlights from Google's IO event last week.

Where to Find Riley:

Riley Hill on YouTube

Riley Hill Website

Riley Hill on Threads

Links from the show:

9to5Mac on Instagram: “Just 18 days until WWDC 2025! While last-minute leaks are likely, here’s what we expect Apple to announce so far”

WWDC 2025: Everything We Know | MacRumors

OpenAI is buying iPhone designer Jony Ive’s AI devices startup for $6.4 billion

Exclusive | What Sam Altman Told OpenAI About the Secret Device He’s Making With Jony Ive

The 15 biggest announcements at Google I/O 2025

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