• 171: Vertical Farming’s Missing Link: Integrating Greenhouse Wisdom with Wessel van Paassen of Green Simplicity
    Aug 1 2025

    Ever wondered why some vertical farms thrive while others struggle? The answer might lie in combining traditional horticultural wisdom with cutting-edge technology.

    I sat down with Wessel van Paassen, Managing Director at Green Simplicity, to explore the intersection of greenhouse expertise and vertical farming innovation. Born into a family of flower growers, Wessel brings a unique perspective to the vertical farming industry. His company, Green Simplicity, has been at the forefront of developing research chambers and vertical farming solutions for the past decade.

    Wessel shares how his background in traditional horticulture has shaped his approach to vertical farming. He emphasizes the importance of efficiency, optimization, and practical knowledge in developing successful systems. We discuss the challenges faced by the vertical farming industry and how lessons from greenhouse cultivation can be applied to indoor farming.

    Our conversation covers a range of topics, including the evolution of vertical farming technology, the importance of collaboration within the industry, and the potential for hybrid approaches that combine greenhouse and indoor farming techniques. Wessel also offers insights into the future of vertical farming and the role of companies like Green Simplicity in driving innovation.

    If you're interested in the future of agriculture and want to understand how traditional farming wisdom can inform cutting-edge vertical farming solutions, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in to gain valuable insights from one of the industry's most experienced voices.

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    Key Takeaways

    5:27 Evolution from research chambers to vertical farms

    10:30 Pioneering LED lighting in tulip cultivation

    16:58 Challenges of vertical farming system integration

    24:40 Attending conferences and industry trends

    29:45 Green Simplicity joining the GreenV group

    35:08 Preparing for growth and future innovations

    Tweetable Quotes"I always say under pressure everything gets fluid. So you have to make sure it works at the ends of the line.""We are not a company that can say, 'Oh, we prove that you can produce 120 kilos of lettuce.' I just say I've never done lettuce. But if you now produce 80 kilos and your climate is this, I know it will be better because our climate is just spot on and we have uniform light distribution.""Seeing is believing. I always say talk to my customer and don't involve me. Then you know the real story."Resources Mentioned

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  • 170: Cartoons, Crops, and Community: Reimagining Sustainable Farming with Smart Farms’ Mike Smart
    Jul 25 2025

    Have you ever wondered how to combine sustainable farming, education, and entertainment into a single innovative concept? I sat down with Mike Smart, founder of Smart Farms, to discuss his unique approach to revolutionizing the food industry and educating the next generation.

    Mike's journey is a fascinating blend of technology, entrepreneurship, and agriculture. From his early days in crypto and digital payments to his current focus on sustainable farming, Mike has always been driven by a desire to empower individuals and decentralize systems. His latest venture, Smart Farms and the Bucket Buddies brand, is a testament to this vision.

    At the heart of Mike's concept is the Bucket Buddies book series, which features anthropomorphic characters teaching children about farming, nutrition, and sustainability. But it doesn't stop there – the brand extends to physical products, grow kits, and plans for animated content, all designed to engage children and families in the world of agriculture.

    We delved into Mike's ambitious plans for scaling his concept, including the development of hyperlocal farms across the country and the creation of educational experiences that blend entertainment with hands-on learning. Mike also shared his thoughts on the challenges of bringing such a multifaceted project to life and his strategies for attracting investors and partners.

    If you're interested in innovative approaches to sustainable agriculture, education, or building a brand with a purpose, you won't want to miss this inspiring conversation with Mike Smart. Tune in to hear how one entrepreneur is working to transform our relationship with food from the ground up.

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    Key Takeaways

    5:35 Crypto journey and payment industry experiences

    8:14 Origins of indoor farming interest

    13:44 Creating the Bucket Buddies book series

    19:33 Walt Disney-like vision for Smart Farms

    23:52 Current progress and future plans

    29:14 Scaling the brand and outsourcing production

    34:53 Immediate needs and ideal partners

    Tweetable Quotes"How about we funnel all of that consumerism into sustainable farming methods and then scale those sustainable farming methods as a nonprofit as opposed to forcing people to pay taxes to jump on board with whatever systems they can remain centralized and shut us off from our electricity or shut us off from our food supply anytime they want.""Adults are indoctrinated and it's harder and in fact impossible to change the mind of an adult who doesn't want to change their mind. And so it just only makes sense to start with educating the youth, making this stuff entertaining, fun, stickable, addicting.""I'm Daddy in my world and I'm fixing everything I can fix with these processes. And if I can create a subscription service to these micro local hyperlocal farms and instill the curriculum into all the libraries and the schools and homeschool communities so that the kids are learning Smart Farms is where we get our food... Then we're going to be a household name."Resources Mentioned

    Website - Https://smartfarms.global

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  • 169: The Evolution of Dubai’s Vertical Farming Show
    Jul 11 2025

    Have you ever wondered how the vertical farming industry is evolving and what it takes to organize successful events in this space? I had the pleasure of speaking with Tahir Abdul Bari, founder and CEO of TAB Group, about his journey from traditional agriculture to organizing one of the largest vertical farming events in the Middle East.

    Tahir's story is fascinating, starting from his childhood experiences in Kashmir's apple orchards to becoming a key player in the events industry. He shared how his grandfather's teachings on respecting and valuing people have shaped his leadership style and approach to team building. The conversation delved into the challenges of pivoting during the COVID-19 pandemic and how it led to the creation of the Global Vertical Farming Show.

    We discussed the importance of adaptability in the events industry, especially when dealing with emerging technologies like vertical farming. Tahir provided insights into how the show has evolved over the years, growing from a virtual event to a large-scale physical exhibition. He emphasized the critical role of collaboration in the indoor farming industry, particularly at this early stage of development.

    If you're interested in the intersection of agriculture, technology, and event management, or if you want to learn about the latest trends in vertical farming, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in to hear Tahir's valuable perspectives on team building, industry challenges, and the future of indoor agriculture.

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    Key Takeaways

    3:42 Impact of COVID-19 on events industry

    9:15 Building long-term relationships in events

    16:28 Decision-making process for event viability

    21:34 Evolution of Global Vertical Farming Show

    32:15 Unique aspects of upcoming Vertical Farming Show

    36:38 Importance of team building and culture

    42:37 Tough questions leaders ask themselves

    Tweetable Quotes"I am very close to the soil. I grew up in a family with farms and orchards. That's what we did on the ground level. So I had a natural inclination towards agriculture.""For Middle East, especially UAE, vertical farming is not just an option for people to consider. It's something which is by default the best that they can do.""A client is a client until we are closing a deal. Once the deal is closed and you come to the event, treat them as your guests. It's our responsibility to make their life comfortable."Resources Mentioned

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  • 168: Microbial Magic: Revolutionizing Agriculture from Inside Plants with LPC Naturals’ Jessica Staha
    Jul 4 2025

    Are you struggling to find sustainable solutions for your crops in an ever-changing agricultural landscape?

    I sat down with Jessica Staha, CEO of LPC Naturals, to discuss the fascinating world of microbials in agriculture. With a background in molecular biology and genetics, Jessica brings a wealth of knowledge to the table, having worked in various industries before finding her passion in agricultural technology.

    We delved into the unique challenges faced by both indoor and outdoor farming, and how microbials can provide innovative solutions. Jessica explained how their proprietary isolate of Beauveria bassiana works as a plant stimulant, helping crops withstand various stresses. She emphasized the importance of educating farmers and growers about the benefits of microbials, as they offer a more holistic approach to plant health compared to traditional chemical solutions.

    Throughout our conversation, we touched on the evolving landscape of controlled environment agriculture, the impact of extreme weather on farming, and the potential for collaboration within the industry. Jessica shared insights on leadership in a startup environment and the importance of maintaining work-life balance in the fast-paced world of agricultural innovation.

    If you're curious about the future of farming and how microbials could revolutionize crop management, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in to gain valuable insights from an industry expert and discover how these tiny organisms could make a big difference in agriculture.

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    Key Takeaways

    5:57 From corporate to entrepreneurship challenges

    11:47 LPC Naturals origin and microbial solutions

    17:57 Educating farmers on microbial benefits

    24:59 Preparing environments for microbial use

    30:20 Balancing entrepreneurship and personal well-being

    35:17 Collaboration opportunities in microbial research

    Tweetable Quotes"DNA is DNA is DNA. It doesn't matter the organism. And so again, it's this universal language that you can communicate with.""In a controlled sector, you're really pushing those plants to an extreme. Really fast cycle times, beautiful, consistent responses are needed. And then on top of it, packaging, handling, long shelf lives are needed.""As more chemicals are being pulled and aren't being allowed to be used, it's clear that more people are doing a better job at communicating the efficacy of microbials in agriculture and vertical spaces."Resources Mentioned

    Website - https://lpcnaturals.com/

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-staha

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  • 167: Supercharging Seeds: Zayndu’s Revolutionary Cold Plasma Solution - Alberto Campanaro
    Jun 27 2025

    Have you ever wondered how plants adapt to extreme conditions without the ability to move? I've always been fascinated by the resilience of plants, and in this conversation with Alberto Campanaro, we explore the intricate world of plant science and its applications in modern agriculture.

    Alberto Campanaro, Head of Science at Zayndu, brings a wealth of experience from his background in industrial biotechnology and plant research. His journey from traditional open-field agriculture to innovative seed treatment technology offers valuable insights into the evolving landscape of controlled environment agriculture. Alberto's passion for understanding plant behavior and his transition from academia to a startup environment provides a unique perspective on the challenges and opportunities in this field.

    The heart of our discussion revolves around Zayndu's cold plasma technology for seed treatment. Alberto explains how this innovative approach can enhance seed germination, improve plant growth rates, and potentially increase crop yields. We delve into the intricacies of developing "recipes" for different plant species and varieties, highlighting the precision required in this cutting-edge technology.

    We also touch on the broader implications of this technology for sustainable agriculture, the importance of maintaining a connection with plants in scientific work, and the challenges of transitioning from hands-on research to a management role in a growing company. Alberto's insights offer a glimpse into the future of agriculture and the potential for technology to address global food production challenges.

    If you're curious about the intersection of plant science, technology, and sustainable agriculture, this episode offers a fascinating look into the future of food production. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of how innovative approaches like cold plasma treatment are shaping the way we grow our food.

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    Key Takeaways

    0:00 Intro: Plants' resilience without movement

    5:43 Growing up in Italy and family memories

    11:48 Journey to plant science and UK studies

    17:40 Transition to controlled environment agriculture

    22:47 Discovering Zayndu and startup excitement

    34:42 Crop-specific responses to cold plasma treatment

    38:38 A day in the life of a plant scientist

    42:40 Evolving from scientist to team leader

    47:27 Closing thoughts and contact information

    Tweetable Quotes"One thing I always find fascinating is that actually plants cannot move. Throughout the year these organisms have to resist heat waves, floods, different temperatures... And mammals or animals can move around, right? There's no water. Okay, let's go find it. But for plants, they're not allowed to.""I always remember I was coming from a kind of a rich subgroup with flashy equipment and stuff. And I was there, I thought, you know, this is quite interesting, I can do this. It was also, you know, the technology was sound and at that time, and still I was looking for do something of impact.""We have arrived to certain level of detail. For example, take spinach that we study quite a lot because there's a lot of request in the market for us for spinach to improve it. And we can see this variation response at the level of varieties. So we are at the moment, in terms of plasma protocol, we have three of them and these three, depending on which variety you're growing, you need to go 1, 2 or 3."Resources Mentioned

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  • 166: AI Revolution in Greenhouses: Dima Chernobilsky & GrowDirector’s Game-Changing Tech
    Jun 13 2025

    Are you struggling to optimize your greenhouse operations and maximize crop yields? I recently spoke with Dima Chernobilsky, co-founder and CEO of GrowDirector, who shared groundbreaking insights on greenhouse automation and the future of controlled environment agriculture.

    Dima's journey from finance to agriculture is a testament to the power of curiosity and perseverance. With a background spanning real estate, business development, and agriculture in various parts of the world, Dima brings a unique perspective to the field of greenhouse automation. His company, GrowDirector, has evolved through four generations of technology, each iteration addressing specific challenges in the industry.

    The conversation centered on GrowDirector's innovative approach to greenhouse automation. Dima explained how their wireless, modular, and scalable system provides growers with unprecedented control and flexibility. The latest generation of their technology offers future-proof scalability, allowing growers to expand their capabilities without significant additional investment.

    We also explored the role of AI in agriculture, discussing GrowDirector's AI-powered features such as predictive analytics and agronomic advice. Dima shared insights on the challenges of vertical farming, the importance of crop selection, and the need for patience as technology continues to evolve. His advice for the industry emphasized the importance of careful planning and adaptability in the face of rapid technological change.

    If you're interested in the cutting edge of greenhouse technology and want to learn how AI is revolutionizing agriculture, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in to hear Dima's fascinating journey and gain valuable insights that could transform your approach to controlled environment agriculture.

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    Key Takeaways

    5:18 Evolution of GrowDirector's product generations

    10:03 Challenges faced by greenhouses and indoor farms

    14:36 AI integration in greenhouse management

    29:57 Lessons learned in hiring and leadership

    35:38 Future goals for GrowDirector's growth

    Tweetable Quotes"We are the god in the greenhouse. We control all of your equipment automatically. Our AI can even predict problems which are coming into the greenhouse and change the rules with your permission.""Hire slow, fire fast. I do think this is the thing because every time I gave a second chance it didn't work for me.""Be very picky about what you do. Not everything you can grow, you can sell, and not everything you can sell you can make money from. Finally you need to make money because you need to feed yourself, your family, and sometimes also get money to your investors."Resources Mentioned

    Website - www.growdirector.com

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dimacher/

    YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@growdirector8723

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/growdirectorltd

    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/growdirectoragri/

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  • 165: Glenn Behrman - Unmasking Hype, The Real Economics of Indoor Farming
    Jun 6 2025

    Ever wondered why so many indoor farming ventures fail despite the hype? I've got the inside scoop from a true industry veteran.

    Glenn Behrman, founder and president of CEA Advisors, brings over 50 years of experience in horticulture and indoor farming to our conversation. From his early days in the foliage industry to pioneering container farming, Glenn's journey is a testament to resilience and adaptability in a rapidly evolving field.

    I delved into Glenn's perspective on the current state of indoor farming, exploring the challenges faced by newcomers and established players alike. He emphasizes the importance of a realistic, business-focused approach, cautioning against the pitfalls of easy money and unrealistic expectations that have plagued the industry.

    We also discussed the potential opportunities in custom projects, the limitations of container farming, and the need for honesty and integrity in the industry. Glenn's insights on the recent demise of prominent indoor farming companies offer valuable lessons for anyone considering entering this space.

    If you're curious about the real challenges and opportunities in indoor farming, straight from someone who's seen it all, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in for a no-nonsense look at what it really takes to succeed in this complex and evolving industry.

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    Key Takeaways

    5:55 Glenn's journey into vertical farming

    27:48 Evolution of container shipping business

    41:33 Automation and robotics in agriculture

    47:35 Innovative ideas for container farming

    54:05 Lessons from recent industry bankruptcies

    Tweetable Quotes"I have a life that people only dream about. I've had the highest highs and the lowest lows, but I just kept on putting one foot in front of the other.""It's all a giant spreadsheet. Every facet of this industry is an Excel spreadsheet. On the left hand side you put all of the different exigencies. And then you have to make adjustments along the right hand side to get to that sweet spot.""If somebody decides to go into this business, I think the first thing they need to do is go sit in a room by yourself and ask yourself, why am I doing this? If your response is for the money, don't do it. This is not a throw the money in and take the money to the bank. It just doesn't work that way."Resources Mentioned

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  • 164: Michael Oster - Saffron Tech’s - 120,000 Flowers Into 2 Pounds of Saffron: A Vertical Farming Breakthrough
    May 30 2025

    Ever wondered how a seasoned executive from the oil and gas industry ends up leading a vertical farming startup? I sat down with Michael Oster, CEO of Saffron Tech, to explore this fascinating journey.

    Michael's transition from the corporate world to the innovative field of vertical farming is a testament to adaptability in business. With decades of experience in oil and gas, real estate, and M&A, he brings a unique perspective to Saffron Tech. The company is pioneering the indoor cultivation of saffron, the world's most expensive spice, with potential applications ranging from culinary use to pharmaceuticals.

    We delved into the challenges of scaling up startups, particularly in the agricultural technology sector. Michael emphasized the importance of careful planning, realistic financial modeling, and securing off-take agreements before major investments. He shared valuable insights on balancing ambitious goals with practical considerations, drawing from both successes and setbacks in his career.

    Our conversation also touched on the geopolitical implications of saffron production, the potential for saffron-based pharmaceuticals, and the intricacies of building a commercial-scale vertical farm. Michael's leadership style, focused on leading by example and leveraging a small but highly skilled team, offers a blueprint for startup success in challenging industries.

    Curious about the intersection of traditional business acumen and cutting-edge agricultural technology? Listen to this episode to gain invaluable insights from a leader who's bridging these worlds and revolutionizing saffron production.

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    Key Takeaways

    5:03 Board member roles and responsibilities explained

    8:08 Saffron's unique properties and market potential

    14:00 Challenges of scaling up agricultural startups

    17:35 Balancing passion and practicality in business

    21:42 Learning from failed real estate project

    26:47 Mitigating risks in high-risk ventures

    Tweetable Quotes"Just to give you a perspective, you need 120,000 flowers growing to create £2 or a kilo of dry saffron. That's a lot of space. That's a lot of flowers.""We're producing the highest quality of saffron if you compare it to the different bands. In all categories of the active ingredients, we're producing a higher quality than the top notch saffron.""We're in a business that has high risk by design. The last thing you want to do is add to that with bullish assumptions. So we try to minimize them in a way that we'll have room for some failure and still be very successful."Resources Mentioned

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