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Underdressed

Underdressed

By: Trudy Gardner
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The podcast where we talk about the clothes under our clothes and exactly how they get made. I'll explore the art, practice and technical execution of intimate apparel in order to understand what happens behind the scenes in this industry and exactly how designers balance creativity with functionality, specifically as it pertains to our delicate yet hard-working base layers.Trudy Gardner Art
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  • E43 Linda Crawford Custom Bra Make and the Roots of Bra Making for Home Sewists
    Aug 30 2025

    In this episode of Underdressed, I sit down with custom bra maker and teacher Linda Crawford. Linda shares her incredible journey from scuba diving instructor to becoming one of the most respected voices in bra making in Canada. We talk about her early days working alongside Beverly Johnson at Bra-Makers Supply, the birth of a bra making community, and what she’s learned from decades of fitting every kind of body. We also dive into why custom bra making is such a rare skill, how teaching has shaped her expertise, and how cultural shifts continue to influence lingerie design today.


    Other episodes mentioned:


    E42 Monica of Bravo Bellas on Learning as Empowerment

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/2cPrcrE7V6ZU8q52KlwfmX?si=311107c8e00a4c4a


    E5 Ruhee Rajan on The Value of Custom Bras

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/5cSmfMa9vHWia3tbSLLw2I?si=dd34437556984ea5

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    1 hr and 20 mins
  • E42 Monica of Bravo Bella on Learning as Empowerment
    Jul 21 2025

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    Find Monica here

    https://bravobella.teachable.com/

    https://www.instagram.com/bravobellabras/


    In this episode of Underdressed, we speak with Monica O’Rourke, founder of Bravo Bella and creator of the Bra Making Mentorship — a 10-month program designed to meet sewists where they are and guide them through the technical, creative, and often emotional journey of bra making.

    Monica shares how her upbringing in a family-owned fabric store shaped her maker mindset from an early age, and how she later combined her background in teaching math and science with her deep knowledge of bra construction to develop a unique and empowering approach to lingerie education.

    The conversation explores the complexity of bra making, from the technical nuances of fit and pattern alteration to the psychological barriers many people face when trying to make garments that work for their bodies. Monica emphasizes the importance of learning in community and reframing “mistakes” as discoveries — moments that move us forward in our craft and in our confidence.

    We also discuss the limitations of ready-to-wear sizing, the underrepresentation of custom bra makers in our communities, and how Monica’s mentorship aims to shift that narrative by equipping more people to design, fit, and create intimate apparel that truly works.

    This episode is a powerful reflection on skill-building, self-trust, and the radical act of making garments that support us — literally and emotionally.

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    1 hr and 29 mins
  • E41 Chloe Grant on Sustainable Intimate Apparel Design
    Jun 6 2025

    Sponsor: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Clo3D Foundations For Intimate Apparel Online Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code: Underdressed for 20% off


    Find Chloe here:

    https://www.instagram.com/createdbychloegrant/

    https://www.instagram.com/peopleoverproductmagazine/


    In this episode of Underdressed, we speak with Chloe Grant, an intimate apparel designer dedicated to sustainability and ethical fashion practices. Chloe shares her journey from studying contour fashion at De Montfort University to launching her freelance career focused on environmentally-conscious ethically produced garments. The conversation explores the delicate balance designers face between making structured, supportive intimate apparel and minimizing long-term environmental impact.

    Chloe discusses her approach to sustainability, highlighting innovative materials like bio-based elastane and seaweed-derived fabrics. She emphasizes the importance of accessibility and transparency in sustainability practices and introduces her new project aimed at building a digital community and platform for intimate apparel creatives to easily access sustainability information.

    The episode also touches on broader industry challenges, such as reconciling consumerism with sustainability, the role of legislation in ethical production, and the potential for digital solutions like CLO 3D to reduce environmental footprints. Join us for an insightful discussion that sheds light on making sustainability achievable and attractive in intimate apparel design.


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    1 hr and 19 mins
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