Pull up a seat—and maybe a plastic cup—because Uncle Sam is back on the couch, Old Crow Bourbon in hand. Not the fancy small-batch bottle… the gallon jug that once fueled the likes of President Ulysses S. Grant and Mark Twain, courtesy of Dr. James Crow’s 19th-century chemistry wizardry.

David and Rob blend history, psychology, and bourbon-soaked banter to dissect America’s collective unconscious, borrowing from Carl Jung’s big ideas: archetypes, the shadow, and the midlife transition. We trace the U.S. from rebellious young upstart (with a little help from Lafayette, France’s creepiest-but-most-useful friend), to reluctant World War hero, to the aging protagonist in need of a rewrite—picture Superman III’s brooding bar scene with Old Crow in the glass.

The question: can America gracefully step out of the hero archetype and into the wise mentor role? Or are we clinging to the cape until we turn into a parody of ourselves? Along the way, we take hard looks at the national “shadow”—slavery, inequality, and the gap between our founding ideals and lived reality—and call out our habit of slapping an Instagram filter over the whole thing.

This episode isn’t therapy, but it is an 80-proof reflection on what it means to be authentically American: proud but self-aware, fierce but adaptable, able to laugh at our own glorious clusterf*** of a national identity while still aiming for something better.

So pour a drink, settle in, and join us as we wrestle with the big question: what does Uncle Sam want to be when he grows up?

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