• Trigger Point: Self Defense or Murder - The Harold Fish Story

  • May 7 2025
  • Length: 48 mins
  • Podcast

Trigger Point: Self Defense or Murder - The Harold Fish Story

  • Summary

  • The Harold Fish Case – A Fatal Hike in Arizona

    In this gripping episode, we dive into one of Arizona’s most controversial self-defense cases: the 2004 shooting of Grant Kuenzli by retired schoolteacher Harold Fish.

    What started as a peaceful solo hike in the Coconino National Forest turned deadly within minutes. Fish claimed he was forced to fire in self-defense after being charged by Kuenzli, who had aggressively confronted him—following a dispute over two unleashed dogs.

    Fish was convicted of second-degree murder in 2006 and sentenced to a decade in prison. But years later, that conviction was overturned. What changed? And what does this case tell us about the justice system, gun rights, and the ever-blurry line between self-defense and excessive force?

    In this episode, we explore:

    • The facts and timeline of the shooting
    • The prosecution's theory vs. the defense's strategy
    • The role of Kuenzli’s dogs—and their impact on the case
    • The trial, conviction, and the appeal that reversed it all
    • How this case helped reshape self-defense laws in Arizona

    Was this truly a justified shooting? Or a deadly overreaction?

    Tune in as we unpack the legal, moral, and societal implications of the Harold Fish case—and why it still sparks debate two decades later.

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