In this episode of the Wake Up Eager Workforce Podcast, host Suzie Price reveals how leaders can finally take the guesswork out of hiring with the T.A.L.E.N.T. Interview Framework—a six-step model designed to help every manager confidently identify, engage, and select the right people.

Suzie draws from years of hiring expertise to expose why traditional interviews often fail—and how subtle shifts in structure, mindset, and listening can dramatically improve results. She’s joined by executive recruiter Huff Logue, who explains why most hiring managers talk too much and miss critical red flags, introducing the concept of “Golden Silence”—the art of using quiet to uncover the truth.

Later, leadership expert Allan DeNiro joins the conversation to share a powerful insight: technical skills rarely cause failure. Instead, mis-hires stem from poor motivation, lack of accountability, or culture misfit. He reminds us that fit—not skill—is what drives success.

Together, Suzie, Huff, and Allan outline a research-backed process rooted in behavioral science, culture alignment, and the TriMetrix® Assessment. They explore the Nine Interview Basics, the Job Fit Car Analogy, and how structure creates confidence—for both interviewer and candidate.

Whether you’re a seasoned leader or new to hiring, this episode delivers practical tools, real examples, and transformative mindset shifts to help you stop bad hires before they start—and build a Wake Up Eager Workforce where every person thrives.

Read the full transcript of Episode 138 below and discover how to hire with purpose, evidence, and alignment—not intuition.

Takeaways of Episode #138 ---

• Resumes Don’t Predict Success—Fit Does: Technical skills rarely cause failure; motivation, accountability, and culture fit do. Use structured interviews and assessments to look beyond experience into what really drives success.
• Talk Less, Listen More: The best interviews happen when candidates talk 75% of the time. Using silence, neutral responses, and aggressive listening uncovers truths you’d miss in a rushed, talk-heavy conversation.
• Structure Creates Confidence—for You and the Candidate: The Nine Basics, T.A.L.E.N.T. model, and TriMetrix assessment not only improve accuracy but also signal professionalism to candidates. A disciplined, respectful process makes top talent want to work with you and positions your company as best-in-class

In this episode:

Huff Logue [00:08:17]: “One of the biggest mistakes I see is that hiring managers do more talking than listening. Once they like someone, they stop qualifying and jump straight into sell mode.”

Huff Logue [00:11:21]: “Golden Silence is that moment after you make a statement when you just stop talking and listen. It sends the message: I’m really paying attention to you.”

Allan DeNiro [00:16:37]: “The reason people fail is almost never because they lack technical skills—it’s because they’re a bad cultural, values, or organizational fit.”

Allan DeNiro [00:24:19]: “Every time you speak, I learn something. Every time I speak in an interview, I’m not learning anything.”

Suzie Price [00:33:37]: “It’s not just about whether a candidate can do the job—the real win is finding the people who will thrive in the job. That’s how you build a Wake Up Eager Workforce.”

In this episode of the Wake Up Eager Workforce podcast, Suzie Price is joined by Catherine Treadaway—brand strategist, creative director, and passionate “Hartmaniac”—to explore how Axiology, the science of human value, is reshaping the way we build brands, lead teams, and earn trust.

Together, they unpack what it means to design value on purpose, revealing how the three dimensions of value—Intrinsic, Extrinsic, and Systemic—can be applied to branding, leadership, and communication. Catherine introduces a revolutionary new tool, the Axiological Net Promoter Score (aNPS), and explains how measuring emotional trust in your messaging can drive lasting loyalty and alignment.

Later in the episode, Douglas White returns with his Emotional Wellbeing 2.0 segment, offering grounded wisdom on navigating uncertainty and reconnecting with the present moment when emotions feel overwhelming.

If you’ve ever wondered how to build a brand that resonates, lead with more meaning, or tap into deeper human motivation—this conversation will show you how to use value as your compass.

Read the full transcript of Episode 137 below and discover how Axiology can transform the way you lead, brand, and connect.

Takeaways of Episode #136 ---

• Axiology Isn’t Just for Assessments—It’s a Powerful Branding Tool: Axiology goes beyond assessments—it’s a framework for designing brands and cultures that align emotional, practical, and logical value to build trust.
• Intrinsic Value Is the Secret to Loyalty and Connection: True loyalty comes from intrinsic value. By prioritizing human connection and meaning, brands and leaders create “stickiness” and lasting trust.
• The Axiological Net Promoter Score (aNPS) Is a Game-Changer: aNPS measures if your brand or team delivers on emotional, practical, and structural promises—redefining trust, alignment, and lasting impact.

In this episode:

Suzie Price [00:00:07]: “It’s the invisible current underneath everything you say and do: Value. And today, we’re talking about how to design it on purpose.”

Catherine Treadaway [00:10:35]: “It was kind of like a little exercise in: how do I take this framework of axiology and apply it directly to branding and culture?”

Catherine Treadaway [00:59:33]: “When you look at that graph and you see a lot of color, you’re actually seeing how emotional trust shows up in your brand messaging.”

Douglas White [01:17:32]: “The unknown is a natural part of life—we don’t always know the why, how, or when. The key is to return to the present moment.”

Suzie Price [01:20:15]: “Every interaction is branding. Every touchpoint is a chance to carry value—in the right order: people, action, then ideas.”