In this episode, Betina and Jen explore the deeper psychology behind our relationships with material possessions. They examine how moving beyond pure materialism doesn't mean rejecting all things, but rather developing intentional connections with what we own. The conversation weaves through practical fashion philosophy (including the art of mixing high and low-end pieces) while maintaining minimalist principles that prioritize quality over quantity.

The hosts share their preference for timeless wardrobe staples that transcend seasonal trends, discussing how this approach reflects broader life values. Jen opens up about her current project of transforming her living space into a welcoming environment designed for connection and hospitality. Throughout their discussion, they reveal how our choices about what to keep, display, and surround ourselves with serve as mirrors for our inner emotional landscape and personal growth.

Time stamps:

00:00 Intros

01:04 Attachment Temp Checks

11:35 The high value of beauty

24:28 Backstory: Different approaches to minimalism and what we each hold on to

25:14 Do the things you have spark joy?

31:55 Having a right relationship with things

39:50 Life Focus: How our relationships with objects reflect our relationship with ourselves

46:30 How differently the hosts view boho styles

50:28 Betina’s Christmas decorating goals

52:45 Recipes

Click the following link to access Betina’s Creamy Chicken and Rice and Rajashree Auntie’s Pav Bhaji :

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vYPlgZDOmx5B0bbIIHsQTbjNWIE4Ua3yt-amULPa2-Y/edit?usp=sharing

Music Credits:

0:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

17:24 “Caribbean Taco” - HATAMITSUNAMI

33:57 “Back at It” - Dyalla

52:21 “Bukina B” - Gil Felix

61:41 “Side by Side” - Tomas Skyldeberg

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