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The Second Half

The Second Half

By: Jabari Saunders
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When the game ends, the hustle doesn’t stop. On a show about new beginnings, Jabari Saunders sits down with former pro-athletes as they tell their stories and provide insight and guidance on how they shifted their passion, discovered new careers, and found success after sports.© 2025 The Second Half Podcast Economics Leadership Management & Leadership Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Triple Threat: From Sports to Corporate Life to Entrepreneurship, ft. Taylor Burner
    Jun 14 2022

    Summary:

    This week’s guest, Taylor Burner, brought the energy and insights to make for a must-listen episode. From collegiate basketball in the U.S., to an overseas playing career in Israel, to starting her own women-led marketing and branding agency in Chicago, Taylor Burner has seen it all, done it all, and has learned tons along the way. The moral of the story: do what’s right by your people, be honest about your goals, and watch the results naturally come.


    Timestamps:

    “First half”

    0:00 - 17:14 → New York City upbringing, finding mentors

    17:14 - 28:38 → On & off-court adventures as a women’s college hooper

    28:38 - 42:19 → Making a professional career in Israel


    “Second Half”

    42:19 - 54:00 → Networking post-athletics, bouncing back from setbacks, and working with brands

    54:00 - 1:08:32 → Lessons in entrepreneurship and knowing your value

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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • A Competitive Drive: Helping Kids Get Their Win, ft. Chris James
    May 24 2022

    Summary:

    Guest Chris James spent his childhood in the projects of Chicago playing basketball and football at local parks. He took this competitive drive and passion for sports with him to the University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign where he soon recognized the disparity in academics for student-athletes. His experience sparked the inspiration to create the HEROH Foundation, an organization providing resources for both athletic and academic successes to young people. The HEROH Foundation has the mission of giving back to James’s childhood community and the surrounding Chicago Public Schools.

    Timestamps:

    0:00 - 6:46 → Growing Up in the Projects of Chicago Playing Basketball

    6:46 - 31:45 → High School Transition to Growing Skill and Reputation in the Football Recruiting World

    31:45 - 44:57 → Life as a Football Student-Athlete at the University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign

    44:57 - 50:22 → 30 second timeout: Getting to Know the Guest on a Personal Level

    50:22 - 59:50 → Post-College Life: Coaching and Educating Athletes with the HEROH Foundation

    59:50 - 1:17:11 → Lessons Learned as a Business Owner, Father, and Retired Athlete




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    1 hr and 17 mins
  • Understand Your Why: Swimming into the Marketing World, ft. Kerhyl Gantt
    Apr 19 2022

    Summary:

    Kerhyl Gantt was an elite high school and college swimmer and has since channeled her passion for sports into the marketing world. In this episode, Kerhyl shared her experiences growing up in Houston, as a swimmer at an HBCU, and as a young adult working for Nike and Amazon Prime Video. For anyone looking to get into a career in marketing, you won’t want to miss this episode of The Second Half Podcast.

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    Timestamps:


    “First Half”

    0:00 - 11:25 → Accessibility and representation in youth sports

    11:25 - 30:42 → Sport as a “way out” & HBCU Experience

    30:42 - 48:38 → Transitioning into life after swimming


    “Second Half”

    48:38 - 1:02:38 → Finding career path through Nike

    1:02:38 - End → Career change and life advice

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    1 hr and 17 mins
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