In this episode, Kari and Lisa sit down with Molly Biehl Corbin, a certified life and career coach whose work on forgiveness has touched lives across communities and continents. Molly shares how a very public and devastating personal loss became the catalyst for her decades-long exploration of forgiveness—not as a passive ideal, but as a powerful tool for healing and transformation. Drawing from her academic background and lived experience, Molly introduces her SHIFT technology, a practical framework that helps people move from suffering to freedom. Together, they explore the myths we carry about forgiveness, the emotional and societal cost of holding on to pain, and the surprising peace that comes when we choose to let go. This conversation is a moving invitation to rethink what it means to forgive—not for others, but for ourselves.

More about Molly:

https://www.mollybiehl.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/molly-biehl/

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at voco Downtown Chicago October 3-5, 2025 (typically a gorgeous time of year in Chi-town).

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