After two days of talks in London, China and the US last week agreed in principle to de-escalate trade tensions.

How that plays out is unclear.

But in this new podcast, Pendal’s head of income strategies Amy Xie Patrick explains the outlook for the world's two biggest economies and what it means for investors.

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Australia is in a surprisingly good position to weather the Trump administration’s trade policies, says Pendal’s head of government bonds TIM HEXT in this fast podcast

“We have reasons to be optimistic down here, albeit it's not going to be quite as good as it could have been," says Tim.

“We're going to get very close to all our long-term aspirations this year.

Inflation is expected to end the year around 2.7% – within a whisker of the 2.5% target.

Growth is likely to be around 2.25%, unemployment around 4.25% and wages around 3% to 3.25%, he says.

“The trouble of course is what Trump and his tariffs may do to that – but I still think we can be reasonably confident Australia will weather the upcoming storm well."

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Fixed-income investors looking for lower yields – and therefore higher prices on their bond investments – may be disappointed with the recent cycle.

But investors need not be concerned, since conditions still favour a rate-cutting environment, says Amy Xie Patrick, who leads Pendal’s fixed-income strategies.

Underlying inflation is under control – supported by a looser US labour market which has not yet been impacted by President Trump’s mooted immigration crack-down. In Australia a tighter labour market has not led to significant wage increases.

“The market's priced in two more US cuts this year, maybe another two in Australia.

"The RBA has enough room to get back to neutral fairly quickly… And the Federal Reserve probably has the ability to move a little bit more than the market’s priced in.

“It’s still a choppy year ahead – but this is where a proven active process for duration and rates really does count for fixed-income portfolios.”

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Investors could not be blamed for feeling a bit queasy at Donald Trump’s whiplash approach to tariffs.

What does it mean for inflation and markets?

“The tariff threat does add to this argument that inflation isn't about to come down anytime soon,” says Pendal’s head of bond strategies Tim Hext.

“The market is right to be a little bit concerned. Obviously free trade – or some version of free trade – is generally to the benefit of both parties.

“The law of comparative advantage says you end up focusing on what you are a cheap producer of.

“If you start throwing sand into the gears of free trade that’s not a good thing.

“Ultimately, I think it is bad for growth and will mean slightly higher inflation, but not enough to suddenly cause rate hikes in the near future.”

It creates a lot of short-term noise, but fortunately investors with a medium-to-long-term time-frame can leave it to people like me to worry about that."

Tim says investors should hold course for now.

In the podcast Tim lays out his latest thinking on fixed interest investing.

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One of the surprises of 2024 was the absence of rate cuts in Australia.

What happened and how long will the Reserve Bank sit on its hands?

Pendal’s head of income strategies AMY XI PATRICK explains in this review of 2024 and outlook for 2025.

This is our final podcast for 2024. We wish our listeners a happy and safe Christmas and new year. We will return in 2025.

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For years, Australian investors flocked to bank hybrid securities as a cornerstone of income-generating portfolios.

Hybrids — debt instruments issued by banks that can convert to equity in times of trouble — have been popular with everyday investors due to their accessibility.

But investors will soon need to find alternatives, after regulators announced plans to phase them out from 2027.

In her latest podcast, Pendal’s head of income strategies Amy Xie Patrick explains the options for investors.

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Any projections contained in this podcast is predictive and should not be relied upon when making an investment decision or recommendation. While we have used every effort to ensure that the assumptions on which the projections are based are reasonable, the projections may be based on incorrect assumptions or may not take into account known or unknown risks and uncertainties. The actual results may differ materially from these projections.

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This week’s Aussie inflation data was a mixed bag. While the headline number dropped into the RBA’s target range at 2.8%, the trimmed measure remained above target at 3.5%.

It will take a few more quarters until the more important trimmed measure heads down towards 3%, says Pendal’s head of government bonds Tim Hext in a new fast podcast.

Tim doesn’t expect a rates move before the RBA’s February meeting. “There won't be enough information by December. The market is 50-50 on whether they'll cut rates there.”

For bond investors Tim sees value in some areas after the recent sell-off.

In this podcast, Tim also covers the impact of next week’s US election and war in the Middle East.

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Pendal’s head of income strategies AMY XIE PATRICK explains the latest market volatility, rates outlook and why she believes investors should be thinking about their defensive allocation.

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The information in this podcast may contain material provided by third parties, is given in good faith and has been derived from sources believed to be accurate as at its issue date. While such material is published with necessary permission, and while all reasonable care has been taken to ensure that the information in this presentation is complete and correct, to the maximum extent permitted by law neither Pendal nor any company in the Pendal group accepts any responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of this information.

Any projections contained in this podcast is predictive and should not be relied upon when making an investment decision or recommendation. While we have used every effort to ensure that the assumptions on which the projections are based are reasonable, the projections may be based on incorrect assumptions or may not take into account known or unknown risks and uncertainties. The actual results may differ materially from these projections.

Performance figures are calculated in accordance with the Financial Services Council (FSC) standards. Performance data (post-fee) assumes reinvestment of distributions and is calculated using exit prices, net of management costs. Performance data (pre-fee) is calculated by adding back management costs to the post-fee performance. Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance.

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