In the debut episode of The Paikin Podcast, Alberta Premier Danielle Smith sits down with Steve Paikin to discuss Alberta’s sovereignty act, if this could be Alberta’s Brexit moment and if any part of her wants to become the first Prime Minister of an independent Alberta.

They also discuss Doug Ford’s particular brand of conservatism, getting “Jason Kenneyed,” meeting with Trump at Mar–a-Lago during the federal election campaign, how to play Trump’s ego to your advantage, the future of conservatism and the rise of the right-wing podcast sphere and, well, just a few more things. They cover a LOT of ground. You should listen to the whole thing!

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You don’t have to have an opinion on everything. In fact, Steve Paikin hasn’t had an opinion since 1976. It was about Frank Sinatra. On The Paikin Podcast, he explores provincial and federal politics, seismic global changes, hot-button cultural issues and the arts, all with his usual balance and context and all in search of maybe, one day, having an opinion again.