As Antonio Sánchez releases an incredible new album with the BEATrio supergroup – alongside American banjo legend Bela Fleck and Colombian harp maestro Edmar Castañeda – the Mexican drumming powerhouse looks back on his incredible jazz journey.

It’s a story of serendipity. Sánchez discovered jazz when Alejandro González Iñárritu played a Pat Metheny tune on his Mexican radio show; when the film director saw the drummer onstage with Metheney a few years later, he got the idea for the a radical score of nothing but drums for 2014 offbeat cinema smash Birdman – which went on to win four Oscars.

He may be a humble guy, but even Sanchez admits after playing with Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, Gary Burton and Ron Carter – and spending 20 years on the road with Metheney – his bucket list is complete.

In this podcast, Sanchez also talks about how he got Trent Reznor and Dave Matthews to guest on his last solo album, Shift (Bad Hombre Vol. II) – and reveals that John Scofield, Bill Frisell, Chris Potter, Joel Ross and Fleck have already recorded parts for its sequel. Before that, he has another supergroup trio album coming out: Ellipsis, alongside Snarky Puppy founder Michael League, and Cuban percussionist Pedrito Martínez. Seriously, this guy doesn't stop.

He also opens up about sharing the stage with his wife, vocalist Thana Alexa, and talks about why Damien Chazelle’s controversial jazz drumming movie Whiplash just isn’t the real deal. All in barely half an hour!

Makaya McCraven is one of the most innovative improvising musicians to come to prominence amid “jazz” music’s unlikely resurgence of the past decade. His breakout International Anthem albums In The Moment and Universal Beings were nothing short of a revelation. Based on completely improvised recordings of his own bands, but sliced up and remixed by McCraven after the event, his methodology flipped conventional wisdom on its head. Rather than playing over beats – or trying to reproduce Dilla’s electronic lope live, ala Robert Glasper – McCraven’s method is closer to hip-hop sampling. But instead of digging crates, he’s pouring through hours of his own spontaneous compositions looking for the hook.

This self-described “beat scientist” was subsequently employed by Richard Russell to “reimagine” (not remix) Gil Scott-Heron’s final album I’m New Here, before Don Was granted him access to the entire Blue Note Records vaults to concoct Deciphering the Message.

I had the chance to talk through McCraven’s entire discography, a sonic journey culminating in his most recent album In These Times – an ambitious, composition-driven project with quasi-classical leanings, entirely different in concept to all that he has played before.