Is unity in the church still possible when everyone is so divided? At the Legacy Conference in Chicago, Beth Moore joins Esau, Kaitlyn, and Skye to wrestle with what it means to remain in community with believers we deeply disagree with. Together they explore why purity tests are dividing Christians online, how cynicism masquerades as wisdom, and why endless outrage is not a productive way to go through life. Plus, some Q and A with the audience, and humpback whales may be the key to solving the empathy debate.

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2:28 - Empathetic Humpback Whales!

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14:21 - Purity and Unity

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30:20 - Tired of Anger

43:30 - Is it Worth Engaging Twitter?

47:13 - Do We Just Believe What We Want?

57:37 - When Do You Look for a new Church?

1:00:59 - When is Something a Heresy?

1:12:28 - How to Love Those Who Are Against You?

1:15:35 - End Credits

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James Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family, died this week. Critics are saying Dobson was the “godfather of child abuse,” while his fans are saying he belongs on the Mount Rushmore of evangelicalism. Who’s right? Phil, Skye, and Mike Erre discuss Dobson’s legacy and why the controversial conservative is secretly responsible for the creation of VeggieTales. Rising political social media star and Texas state representative, James Talarico, joins Skye to talk about his faith and what makes his frequent references to Christianity in his progressive politics different from the approach of Christian nationalists. Also this week—Cracker Barrel apologizes for changing its logo after being accused of stripping away America’s heritage and culture.

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4:48 - Cracker Barrel Logo Gone Woke?

23:36 - James Dobson Passed Away

38:45 - No Dobson Means No Veggietales?

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57:36 - Interview

1:01:15 - Telerico’s Faith Background

1:09:54 - Does the Democratic Party Align with Christianity?

1:20:37 - Flipping Tables

1:28:25 - Christianity and Welcoming the Stranger

1:35:30 - End Credits

Links from News Segment:

Cracker Barrel logo change!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/26/cracker-barrel-logo-apology

Dobson’s Passing:

https://www.christianpost.com/voices/jim-dobson-a-giant-of-the-faith.html

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A whites-only community has launched in Arkansas under the legal guise of a “private membership association.” The founders claim it’s about preserving culture, but Skye and Phil aren’t buying it. Then, Brent Leatherwood, head of the Southern Baptist Convention’s public policy arm, has resigned after years of pressure from hardline conservatives. What does his departure reveal about the denomination’s political realignment? And, this week’s guest is Brandon O’Brien, author of The Strategically Small Church. As American Christianity grapples with shrinking attendance and fading influence, O’Brien offers a compelling vision for why small congregations might be not just inevitable, but essential. Also Phil learns way too much about penguin poop.

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6:15 - Penguin Poop Saves the World?

15:50 - Whites-Only Community in Arkansas?

28:47 - SBC Commission President Steps Down!

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47:21 - Interview

51:09 - Appetite for Small Churches?

59:00 - Beholden to Budget

1:09:15 - Unanxious

1:20:46 - End Credits

Links from News Segment:

All White Community in Arkansas:

https://news.sky.com/story/inside-the-whites-only-settlement-in-arkansas-the-group-building-a-fortress-for-the-white-race-13399875

Brent Leatherwood Steps Down:

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/07/erlc-brent-leatherwood-resign-sbc-southern-baptist-politics/

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The Strategically Small Church: Intimate, Authentic, and Effective by Brandon J. O’Brien: https://a.co/d/fgdjXcQ

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CBS has cancelled the top-rated late-night talk show. Was it really a financial decision, or was it done to get the Trump administration to approve a corporate merger? And will Stephen Colbert now come on the Holy Post? Horrific images of starvation are coming out of Gaza as pressure builds on the Israeli government to end the war, but when does pro-Palestinian activism cross the line into antisemitism? Historian Molly Worthen’s new book, “Spellbound,” explains how charismatic political and religious movements have shaped America, and why they depend more on a compelling story than a persuasive leader. Also this week— Phil is back from his European vacation with stories of schnitzel and chicken dancing.

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5:04 - Phil’s Chicken Dance Adventure

15:05 - Colbert Cancelled?

24:21 - Antisemitism and Protesting Israel

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44:23 - Interview

47:50 - Building vs Destroying Institutions

58:56 - What Charismatic Movements Succeed?

1:09:45 - Charismatic Leader vs Charismatic Story

1:16:00 - Secular yet Spiritual

1:23:19 - End Credits

Links from News Segment:

Holding Israel accountable isn’t antisemtic—harming Jews is:

https://religionnews.com/2025/07/16/holding-israel-accountable-isnt-antisemitic-harming-jews-is/

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Why is our society so fractured and angry? David Brooks’ recent article draws from the work of moral philosopher Alasdair MacIntyre to explain how we got here, but what is the solution? With the growth of A.I., some Christians think technology may be how God redeems humanity and gives us eternal life. But is this still Christianity or a strange new Silicon Valley heresy? Kaitlyn talks to Daniel Lee Hill about his latest book, “Bearing Witness: What the Church Can Learn from Early Abolitionists.” Also this week—dolphins learn to puff the magic fish.

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4:55 - Dolphins High Off Pufferfish Toxins

10:15 - David Brooks on Moral Philosophy

36:36 - Transhuminist Christians

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54:16 - Interview

56:12 - Why Write Bearing Witness?

1:03:40 - What Do We Learn from Abolitionists?

1:19:23 - Communal History in the Church

1:29:46 - End Credits

Links from News Segment:

Dolphins Doing Drugs:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/dolphins-seem-to-use-toxic-pufferfish-to-get-high-180948219/

David Brooks Article on Moral Philosophy:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/07/trump-administration-supporters-good/683441/

Russell Moore on AI and God:

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/07/image-god-ai-era-artificial-intelligence-russell-moore/

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The IRS has decided churches are no longer prohibited from endorsing political candidates. Is this a win for free speech or a reason for some churches to become even more partisan? The Department of Homeland Security has released a creepy new promotional video that uses the Bible to frame border security as a mission from God. The Christian who gave George W. Bush the idea of “compassionate conservatism” says the passing of the Big Beautiful Bill marks the end of an era for the GOP. Professor Ryan Burge is back with data about the religious outlook of Gen Z. Some see evidence of a revival, but Burge says it’s probably wishful thinking. Also this week, animal fashion news: chimp drip edition.

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5:55 - Chimp Fashion!

12:56 - Christian in Government with PEPFAR

16:07 - The Johnson Amendment

29:24 - Bible Verse in an ICE Recruitment Ad

40:59 - Why Is the Church So Libertarian?

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58:00 - Interview

1:00:45 - Why Are They Saying It’s a “Revival?”

1:09:05 - Can Revival Be Predicted?

1:16:50 - Church and Loneliness

1:29:46 - End Credits

Links from News Segment:

Chimps and Grassy Fashion!

https://www.iflscience.com/chimps-are-sticking-grass-in-their-ears-and-rears-as-they-embrace-pointless-fad-79910

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Ryan Burge’s Article on Gen Z Revival:

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