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What if your business gave you the kind of life you didn’t need a vacation from? Yeah—that’s the kind of conversation we’re having today.

In this episode, I’m talking with the incredible Leslie Hocker, a woman who walked away from a high-powered oil & gas career (the ultimate boys’ club) to open Houston’s first-ever Pilates studio… back when “core strength” was still considered a buzzword.

Leslie lives a heart-led business. In this episode: how leading with heart gives you the edge, what trips people up when starting, and the daily declarations that keep Leslie unshakable.

🎧 Lead with purpose—this is your playbook.

Key Takeaways

• Why Leslie left a high-powered oil & gas career to open a Pilates studio
• The difference between a job you dread and a life you don’t need a vacation from.
• How athletic discipline shaped her entrepreneurial mindset.
• The power of community and culture in heart-led businesses.
• Why affirmations (or “declarations”) are your secret weapon for success.

About the Guest
Leslie Hocker is a globally recognized entrepreneur, speaker, and coach with a passion for reinvention and heart-led leadership. From trailblazing as one of the youngest female execs in the petroleum industry to pioneering Houston’s first Pilates studio, her journey spans decades of success in personal development, skincare, and network marketing. A certified NLP trainer and former collegiate swim champion, Leslie now mentors entrepreneurs worldwide—helping them create intentional lives they don’t need a vacation from.

Additional Resources

• Website: www.lesliehocker.com & www.realfreedomforyou.com
• LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/leslie-hocker
• Facebook: www.facebook.com/bizcoach.leslie
• X: x.com/BIZCoachLeslie
• Instagram: www.instagram.com/leslie_hocker

Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap HERE to delve into our conversation: https://tinyurl.com/leslie-hocker

Up Next: Fredrick Hahn is a veteran personal trainer, author, and founder of SlowBurn Personal Training Studios in NYC and NJ. Certified since 1990, he’s trained top business leaders and celebrities, and co-authored the best-selling The Slow Burn Fitness Revolution. Fredrick is a sought-after voice in fitness, with appearances on The Today Show, CNN, FOX, and more.

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What happens when a business becomes a vehicle for awakening?

Troy Hadeed is living the answer. In this episode, the author of My Name is Love, Zen yoga teacher and soulful entrepreneur from Trinidad & Tobago, shares how he blends devotion, vulnerability, and leadership in the way he builds and stewards community.

He’s not just teaching yoga—he’s redefining success, surrendering control, and showing what it means to serve something greater than self. We discuss the tension between heart and profitability, why letting go is sometimes the most loving move, and how to build a business that remains true to its soul.

🎧Grab your yoga mat or your journal, and join us for this honest, uplifting, and deeply human conversation.

📌Key Takeaways

• Why being “too heart-led” can hurt your business (yes, it’s possible!)
• The emotional rollercoaster of stepping back as a founder
• How to find a general manager who won’t kill your vibe—or your mission
• The difference between self-help and self-realization
• Turning used cooking oil into profit (and peace of mind)

📌About the Guest: Troy Hadeed is a yoga teacher, writer, and spiritual seeker from Trinidad & Tobago, known for blending ancient wisdom with present-moment awareness. Troy’s journey—from solo treks across Costa Rica to opening Trinidad’s first conscious hemp store—embodies a deep devotion to mindful living. Through breath, prayer, and heart-led writing, he inspires reconnection with compassion, truth, and divine presence.

📌Additional Resources

• Website: www.troyhadeed.com & www.beyondyogatv.com
• Email: info@beyondyogatv.com
• LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/troy-hadeed-love
• Facebook: www.facebook.com/troyhadeedofficial
• Instagram: www.instagram.com/troyhadeed
• YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCgPtY11bkI9zGJX01zOzqkQ
• Book: My Name is Love: We're Not All That Different https://tinyurl.com/bdebkw9f

📌Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap HERE to delve into our conversation. https://tinyurl.com/troy-hadeed

📌Up Next: Leslie Hocker is a global entrepreneur and coach who empowers purpose-led reinvention. From launching Houston’s first Pilates studio to guiding heart-driven brands worldwide, she brings decades of expertise in wellness and personal growth.

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Can you build a thriving business and be a present parent?

In this inspiring episode, Dr. Anne WelsH, a clinical psychologist, executive coach, and mom of four, shares how she turned her values into a vibrant, heart-led career. From her early days at Harvard to creating her own private practice, Anne opens up about what it really takes to juggle ambition and motherhood, leave the insurance model behind, charge what you're truly worth, and navigate perfectionism without losing your identity.

Her story is a refreshing and empowering reminder that you don’t have to choose between purpose and profit—you can absolutely have both.

🎧Are you a therapist, coach, working mom, or heart-led entrepreneur? This episode is full of real talk and smart insights to help you build a business that truly fits your life and values.

Key Takeaways

• How Anne accidentally became an entrepreneur (spoiler: Harvard said no, and she said “watch me”)
• The truth about building a “portfolio career” that balances passion, profit, and parenting
• Why heart-led business owners struggle to charge their worth—and how to change that
• The magic of community and why going solo doesn’t mean going it alone
• How perfectionism is quietly sabotaging your success—and what to do about it

About the Guest
Dr. Anne Welsh is a clinical psychologist, executive coach, and mother of four who has made it her life’s work to support working parents as they navigate career and family. A Harvard-trained expert on the transition to parenthood, she blends research, real-life experience, and over 15 years in practice to help women feel seen, grounded, and empowered. Dr. Welsh is a leading voice on working motherhood, women’s leadership, and redefining success on your own terms.

Additional Resources

• Website: www.drannewelsh.com
• Email: drannewelsh@gmail.com
• LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/drannewelsh
• Free Masterclass: https://www.drannewelsh.com/masterclass

Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap HERE to delve into our conversation. https://tinyurl.com/dr-anne-welsh

Up Next: Troy Hadeed, a yoga teacher, writer, and truth-seeker from Trinidad & Tobago who blends ancient wisdom with modern presence. His journey fuels a practice and writing that inspires connection, clarity, and compassion.

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Can you build a successful business and stay true to yourself? Esther Avant, co-owner of Made By Me Coaching and bestselling author of To Your Health, says YES!

In this inspiring episode, Esther shares how she turned a life of constant relocation into an opportunity to grow a heart-led online coaching business. From burnout to breakthrough, she reveals how she redefined success by aligning her business with her values, family, and well-being.

✨ Seeking purpose and authenticity in business? This convo’s your spark. 🎧 Tune in—lead with heart, keep your edge.

Key Takeaways

• The evolution from personal trainer to online wellness CEO (with a few detours through burnout)
• Why trusting yourself is the ultimate business strategy (even if it freaks people out)
• How military life, motherhood, and moving continents shaped Esther’s business model
• The dark side of spreadsheets: When profit goals hijack your purpose
• Reclaiming joy by redefining success (spoiler: it’s not always more clients)
• From one-on-one coaching to one-to-many impact: Esther’s leap into speaking

About the Guest
Esther Avant is a health industry veteran with 20 years of experience, a bestselling author, and host of the To Your Health podcast. Once stuck in the cycle of all-or-nothing wellness, she now empowers busy people to ditch perfection and build sustainable habits that support their whole life, not just the number on the scale. As a keynote speaker and co-owner of MADE By ME Coaching, Esther brings practical tools and powerful mindset shifts to help others find balance, confidence, and lasting health.

Additional Resources

• Website: www.estheravant.com
• LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/estheravant
• Instagram: www.instagram.com/esther.avant
• X: x.com/esther_avant
• Podcast: To Your Health Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/to-your-health/id1543658046
• Book: To Your Health: A Lifestyle of Health, Happiness, and Confidence https://tinyurl.com/booktoyourhealth

Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap HERE to delve into our conversation: https://tinyurl.com/esther-avant

Up Next: Dr. Anne Welsh—clinical psychologist, coach, and mom of four—left Harvard to build a purpose-driven business. Now, she empowers working parents and women leaders to thrive at the crossroads of career, motherhood, and mental health.

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What happens when a gift shop owner trading “grot for grockles” (tourist trinkets, for the non-Devon folks) realizes his heart’s no longer in it, and pivots into purpose-led coaching? 💥

Meet Robin J. Emdon, self-proclaimed procrastination slayer and the mind behind GetResultsology. After years of selling things he didn’t believe in, Robin rebuilt his life around something he did: helping others stop procrastinating and finally do what they’ve been meaning to do for ages.

In this episode, we unpack the roots of procrastination (hint: it’s not laziness), the true cost of undervaluing your services, and the momentum-shifting power of accountability. Plus, Robin reveals how to reclaim your purpose!

💡 Feeling stuck or torn between profit and purpose? This episode is your nudge forward. 🎧 Hit play!

Key Takeaways

• Why selling “grot” to tourists nearly crushed Robin’s soul
• The surprising connection between procrastination and passion (spoiler: they’re frenemies)
• How to price your services without guilt—and with heart
• Why accountability is the secret sauce to success
• The mindset shift that turns money from “evil” to empowering

About the Guest
Robin J. Emdon is the creator of GetResultsology®—The Science of Getting Stuff Done! Known as The Procrastination Slayer and The Momentum Architect, Robin helps solopreneurs, creatives, and no-boss professionals turn scattered effort into focused progress. From South Devon to clients around the globe, his practical system blends neuroscience, behavioral psychology, and lived experience to help people overcome procrastination and finally follow through on what matters.

Additional Resources

• Website: www.getresultsology.com
• LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/robinjemdon
• Instagram: www.instagram.com/robinjemdon
• Facebook: www.facebook.com/skyrocketyourproductivity
• YouTube: www.youtube.com/@GetResultsology
• FREE Five-Day Challenge: https://getresultsology.com/five-day-challenge/
• Book: GetResultsology®: https://tinyurl.com/jayvztr5

Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap HERE to delve into our conversation. https://tinyurl.com/robin-j-emdon

Up Next: Meet Esther Avant—bestselling author, podcast host, and health pro helping busy people break free from perfection and build lasting habits with balance.

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Success doesn’t always come from scaling faster—it often begins with slowing down and tuning into what truly matters. 💛 In this episode of The Heart-Led Business Show, we dive deep with Shahada Karim, a former CBS journalist who left the spotlight to build a soulful, science-backed wellness brand rooted in healing, integrity, and personal connection.

From broadcast journalism to founding Habibi brands, Shahada shares how aligning business with purpose changed everything. 🎧 Tune in for a powerful journey of building with soul.

Key Takeaways

• Shahada’s leap from corporate media to holistic wellness—no parachute, just passion.
• Why your customers need to know YOU, not just your product (hint: it’s not just about the lotion).
• The burnout saga: planning a wedding, running a business, and learning to say “no” without guilt.
• The power of adaptive fitness and why your 25-year-old squat might need a retirement plan.

About the Guest
Shahada Karim is a former network news producer turned wellness visionary, blending plain speech with powerful intention. As the founder of Habibi Body, Habibi Sport, and Habibi Life, she channels decades of experience—from journalism to yoga, Ayurveda, and functional movement—into one mission: helping every human fall in love with themselves from the inside out. Through her Habibi Body Technique, Nourish nutrition program, and accessible wellness platforms, she inspires practical, sustainable, and wholehearted living.

Additional Resources

• Website:
  www.habibibodysport.com
  www.habibibody.com
  www.habibilife.org
• LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/shahada-karim-9ba4787
• Instagram: www.instagram.com/shahadakarim
• Facebook: www.facebook.com/HABIBIBODY
• Email:
  info@habibibodysport.com
  info@habibibody.com
  info@habibilife.com
• Book: HABIBI LIFE: Practical Advice for an Abundant Life
  https://tinyurl.com/bddderbh
• YouTube: www.youtube.com/@habibilife-org
• Podcast: HABIBI LIFE The Podcast: https://tinyurl.com/msucra2j

Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap HERE to delve into our conversation. https://tinyurl.com/shahada-karim

Up Next: Robin J. Emdon, creator of GetResultsology® and known as The Procrastination Slayer, helps solopreneurs and creatives overcome procrastination, build momentum, and turn scattered effort into real results.

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You’ve built the experience—now let’s turn it into freedom.

In this episode of The Heart-Led Business Show, I had the absolute pleasure of sitting down with Sam Lee, visionary founder of IndeCollective, who’s helped over 750 mid-career professionals build heart-led consulting and coaching businesses that scale their impact, income, and independence.

We unpack what it really means to run a business that’s driven by purpose and results—and why so many professionals underestimate the value of what they already know. Sam doesn’t just drop inspiration—he gives you the framework and proof that it’s possible to do meaningful work and live life on your own terms.

🎧If you’ve ever felt stuck between “what you’ve built” and “what’s next,” this episode is your permission slip—and your roadmap. Hit play and let’s go.

Key Takeaways

• Build a business that gives you more: Impact, Income & Flexibility
• Why your experience isn’t enough—and how to turn it into true expertise
• The four ingredients for building a better business (spoiler: one of them is YOU)
• The magic of niching down (and how it actually expands your reach)
• Value-based pricing: how to charge what you’re worth and feel good doing it

About the Guest
Sam Lee is the founder of IndeCollective and a champion of career freedom. A former exec at Goldman Sachs and WeWork, Sam helps professionals turn their expertise into thriving consulting businesses. Through IndeCollective, he’s helped 750+ mid-career pros earn more, create impact, and work on their own terms.

Additional Resources

• Website: www.indecollective.co
• LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/indecollective
• Instagram: www.instagram.com/indecollective
• X: x.com/indecollective
• Podcast: https://indecollective.co/publication/

📌Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap here to delve into our conversation. https://tinyurl.com/ep96-sam-lee

📌Up Next: Step into the world of Shahada Karim, a wellness visionary and former broadcast journalist who blends plain speech with purposeful action. Through movement, mindfulness, and community, she helps others fall in love with themselves and live vibrant, healthy lives from the inside out.

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At 23, Dr. Jaime Raygoza’s life changed after a near-fatal car accident. What followed was a powerful shift—from burnout and overwork to building Rainbow Career Coaching, a heart-led business helping LGBTQ+ professionals thrive.
In this inspiring episode of the Heart-Led Business Show, Jaime shares how that wake-up call led him to choose purpose over pressure, passion over prestige. His story is raw, real, and a must-hear for anyone craving authenticity in their work.

🎧 If you're ready to stop surviving and start leading with heart, hit play.

Key Takeaways

• The car crash that changed everything (spoiler: he lived to tell the tale!)
• Why burnout isn’t a badge of honor
• How to build a business without losing your values—or your mind
• The power of niching down (and why trying to help everyone helps no one)
• Balancing passion with self-care: cake is great, but not for every meal

About the Guest
Dr. Jaime Raygoza is a proud Gay Latino psychologist and founder of Rainbow Career Coaching. He helps professionals build authentic, confident careers while prioritizing mental health. Blending career strategy with mindfulness and Laughter Yoga, Jaime empowers clients to thrive without burnout. His motto, “Unleash the Unicorn in You,” reflects his joyful, transformative approach.

Additional Resources

• Website: www.rainbowcareercoaching.com
• LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jaime-gabriel-raygoza
• Facebook: www.facebook.com/rainbowcareercoaching
• Instagram: www.instagram.com/rainbowcareercoaching
• Podcast: www.rainbowcareercoaching.com/podcast
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• YouTube: www.youtube.com/@rainbowcareercoaching

Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Unearth the insights within! Tap HERE https://tinyurl.com/dr-jaime-raygoza to delve into the profound wisdom woven throughout our conversation.

Up Next: Discover how Sam Lee, founder of IndeCollective, has helped 750+ professionals build thriving consulting businesses. A former exec at Goldman Sachs and WeWork, he brings 20+ years of experience to help others grow with impact and independence.

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