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Everything looked “successful” on paper: sales were up, clients were happy, growth was happening, but inside, something felt off. As a sales coach, I see this all the time: leaders pushing forward while ignoring that quiet inner voice that knows there’s a better way.

In this episode, I sit down with Andrew Grinbaum, a 5x entrepreneur, MBA professor, ICF-certified coach, and Founder of SpiritualBiz and Best Virtual Staff, who has scaled multiple multimillion-dollar companies, to uncover what it truly means to run a heart-led business that grows without burning you out. We talk about alignment, clarity, and how to listen to your soul while making bold business decisions.

🎧 Ready to grow smarter, lead with heart, and stop spinning your wheels? This conversation is for you. Like, share, and subscribe to catch the full episode and join leaders scaling their business the better way.

Key Takeaways

• The “Three Column System” from Kabbalah and how it applies to modern entrepreneurship
• Why knowing the right move isn’t enough—you have to act on it
• Balancing serving others with clearly owning your goals
• How aligning strategy and soul can prevent burnout and increase impact
• Practical ways to listen to your inner guidance while scaling a business

About the Guest
Andrew Grinbaum is a 5x entrepreneur, MBA professor, and ICF-certified coach who helps leaders build purpose-driven, multimillion-dollar businesses with clarity, heart, and freedom. Founder of SpiritualBiz.org and Best Virtual Staff, he empowers CEOs to work less, earn more, and create lasting impact.

Additional Resources

• Website: www.spiritualbiz.org | www.bestvirtualstaff.com
• LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/grinbaum
• Instagram: www.instagram.com/andygrinbaum
• Facebook: www.facebook.com/grinbaum
• YouTube: www.youtube.com/@Spiritualbiz-Institute
• Playbook: Inner Ceo:
  Contact Andrew through the website, and he’ll send you a code to access the playbook: www.spiritualbiz.org/the-inner-ceo

Explore the Dialogue: Tap here to delve into our conversation: https://tinyurl.com/andrew-grinbaum

Up Next: Dr. Dave Jones, founder of M is Good, a Christian ad agency serving 1,000+ ministries worldwide, is a former pro hockey player and performance psychologist with 24 years of coaching leaders and athletes to peak performance.

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Jonathan Hunt-Glassman knows what it’s like when alcohol takes control of your life. That struggle became the seed of Oar Health, a company helping over 70,000 people drink less or quit entirely.

Before founding Oar, Jonathan was transforming healthcare from the inside at Humana, Optum, and Bain. But it was his personal journey that taught him how to build a heart-led, mission-driven business that actually works.

In this episode of The Heart-Led Business Show, Jonathan shares how he turned his challenges into solutions, the lessons he’s learned scaling a business without compromising mission or members, and a free resource for anyone curious about smarter ways to drink less.

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📌Key Takeaways
✔️The little-known medication that can curb alcohol cravings and why it’s rarely discussed.
✔️Jonathan’s personal journey with alcohol and how it fueled a purpose-driven business mission.
✔️Why leaving your job abruptly may do more harm than good.
✔️The real story behind today’s alcohol trends
✔️Strategies for aligning purpose with profit when the stakes are high.

📌About the Guest
Jonathan Hunt-Glassman, CEO and Founder of Oar Health, is a healthcare entrepreneur transforming alcohol use disorder treatment. Drawing from his personal experience with alcohol misuse, he founded Oar Health to provide private, convenient access to medication and support for individuals looking to drink less.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.oarhealth.com
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jhuntglassman
www.linkedin.com/company/oarhealth
✔️Instagram: www.instagram.com/OarHealth
✔️Facebook: www.facebook.com/OarHealth
✔️TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@oar_health
✔️Take the Oar Health Assessment: https://start.oarhealth.com/signup/step-1
✔️Schedule a 15-minute Free Discovery Call: https://calendly.com/jhg_oar/1-1-with-jonathan

✨ Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap HERE https://tinyurl.com/jonathan-hunt-glassman to delve into our conversation.

✨Up Next: Andrew Grinbaum, a 5x entrepreneur, MBA professor, and ICF-certified coach who helps CEOs grow purpose-driven, multimillion-dollar businesses with clarity, heart, and freedom.

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Kyle Campbell, founder of Summit Total Wellness, joins the Heart Led Business Show to reveal how busy professionals and entrepreneurs can ditch burnout, regain energy, and take control of their health without slowing down their hustle. From medically supervised weight loss to high-performance coaching, Kyle shares real strategies that transform bodies, minds, and confidence.

🎧Listen to the full episode to hear Kyle’s personal journey, the mindset shifts that turned a business opportunity into a mission-driven success, and the practical tips to help you perform at your peak while living a balanced, energized life.

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📌Key Takeaways
✔️How Kyle went from chasing dollars to changing lives
✔️The surprising truth about GLP-1s and weight loss fads
✔️Why busy execs need more than just a meal plan
✔️The power of high-performance coaching in wellness
✔️How gratitude fuels sustainable business success

📌About the Guest
Kyle Campbell is the founder of Summit Total Wellness and a certified High Performance coach. He helps busy professionals, business owners, and entrepreneurs overcome burnout, low energy, and weight challenges with medically supervised weight loss, personalized nutrition, exercise, peptides, and one-on-one coaching, all without slowing down their work or family life.

📌Additional Resources
👉Website: https://www.summittotalwellnessco.com
👉Email: hello@summittotalwellnessco.com
👉LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-campbell-b5194b20
www.linkedin.com/company/summit-total-wellness
👉Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/summittotalwellness
👉Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Summit-Total-Wellness/61578356679619
👉Join the Summit Total Wellness Community - 50% off—use code HEART50 at checkout! https://tinyurl.com/sh2m3axs

✨ Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap HERE to delve into our conversation: https://tinyurl.com/ep127-kyle-campbell

Up Next: Jonathan Hunt-Glassman, CEO of Oar Health, is a healthcare entrepreneur transforming alcohol use disorder treatment. He founded Oar Health to provide private, convenient access to medication and support for people looking to drink less.

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In this episode, I sit down with Scott Darragh, founder of Jet Set Trainer and former Army Black Hawk pilot turned airline captain, for a powerful conversation on health, leadership, and heart-led business.

We unpack what it really means to serve while selling with integrity, how Scott built a six-figure fitness business in one year, and why owning your value is essential to lasting impact. If you’re a business owner or high performer feeling stretched, burned out, or unsure how to align purpose with profit, this episode will challenge your thinking and give you a new lens on leadership.

🎧Watch this conversation to rethink how you lead, how you serve, and how you show up—both in business and in life.

👉 Subscribe, like, and leave a review to support heart-led conversations that matter.

📌Key Takeaways

• From Army Black Hawk pilot to airline captain to fitness entrepreneur—Scott’s wild career pivot
• Why asking for help is the real flex in business and life
• The secret sauce to selling without selling your soul
• Why free coaching doesn’t work (and might make you cry)
• How functional health labs are the new cheat code for fitness pros

📌About the Guest
Scott Darragh is the founder of Jet Set Trainer, a premium fitness and functional health brand for busy professionals on the move. A former Army Black Hawk pilot and current airline captain, he helps frequent flyers lose weight, boost energy, and stay confident anywhere without sacrificing the lifestyle they’ve worked hard to build.

📌Additional Resources
👉Website: https://jetsettrainer.com/
👉Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jetsettrainer737
👉X: https://x.com/jet_set_trainer
👉YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ScottJetSetTrainer
👉TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@jet_set_trainer
👉Free Metabolic Black Box Survey: https://jetsettrainer.com/bhe

✨ Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap HERE: https://tinyurl.com/scott-darragh to delve into our conversation.

Up Next: Kyle Campbell, founder of Summit Total Wellness, guiding high performers out of burnout and into peak performance. His results-driven approach helps leaders look better, feel better, and live better, fast and sustainably.

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What do ski gear, frozen cookies, and CFO strategy have in common?
Michael Barbarita and a powerful lesson in what actually drives business success.

In this episode, I sit down with Michael Barbarita, a veteran entrepreneur with over 40 years of experience across retail, manufacturing, and finance. From scaling companies to $8M in revenue to navigating humbling failures, Michael shares the moments that reshaped his view of success—and sparked his shift to heart-led leadership.

We explore what it means to build a heart-led business, why mission and vision must be a “10,” and how listening to customers sets you apart. Michael shares how failure sparked a purpose-driven, sustainable business.

🎧 Grow a profitable business without burnout—this episode is for you. Subscribe, like, and leave a review to spread the heart-led movement.

Key Takeaways
✔️Why “I hope so” marketing is killing your business (and what to do instead)
✔️The power of risk reversal and how it skyrocketed ski sales
✔️How falling flat on his face led Michael to build a heart-led business
✔️Why most business owners are stuck at a “7” and how to become a “10”
✔️The CFO's secrets to consistent profits and time freedom

About the Guest
Michael Barbarita is the founder and CEO of Next Step CFO, delivering fractional CFO expertise to small businesses. With 40 years of experience running retail, service, and manufacturing companies, he’s known for driving growth and innovation—like growing Ski Town USA from $2.5M to $8M in under five years. His product, Cookies To Scoop Frozen Cookie Dough, was featured on QVC and named one of Massachusetts’ top 20 products in 1997.

Additional Resources
✔️Website: https://www.nextstepcfo.net
✔️LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbarbarita
✔️Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/contractcfo
✔️X: https://x.com/nextstepcfo
✔️Free E-book: Powerful Business Strategies: https://tinyurl.com/mvdbvyuc
✔️Get Your FREE Guide: Stop Competing on Price
https://cfobusinesscoach.net/compelling-offers

✨ Explore the Dialogue: Tap here https://tinyurl.com/michael-barbarita to delve into our conversation.

Up Next: Scott Darragh—former Army Black Hawk pilot, 737 captain, and founder of Jet Set Trainer. He combines aviation discipline with evidence-based fitness to help frequent flyers lose weight, boost energy, and feel confident any

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Today on the Heart-Led Business Show, I sit down with John Heringer, founder of Method3 Fitness, to dive into his 20+ year journey of building a community that leads with heart. From starting at a local gym to leading a team of 17 and serving nearly 600 clients, John shares his lessons on relationships, leadership, and balancing purpose with profitability. His story is full of insights that any business owner or entrepreneur can apply.

Whether you’re a fitness professional, entrepreneur, or business leader, John’s insights prove that leading with heart is not only possible—it’s the secret to lasting impact and business success.

🎧Listen now and start the year inspired.

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📌Key Takeaways
✔️Why John ditched law school dreams for dumbbells
✔️The power of relationships in building a fitness business that lasts
✔️How Method3 Fitness keeps clients for nearly 4 years
✔️Creating a team culture that feels more like family than staff
✔️Balancing heart-led values with cold, hard cash, and thriving while doing it

📌About the Guest
John Heringer is a fitness industry veteran with over 20 years of experience. He founded and runs Method3 Fitness, working with 17 professionals and nearly 600 clients. Formerly the owner of two franchise locations, he now focuses on growing Method3 and spending quality time with his wife, Sara, and their three sons, Jaxson, Brennan, and Rylan.

📌Additional Resources
👉Website: https://www./method3fitness.com
👉Email: john@method3fitness.com
👉LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jheringer
👉Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/method3fitness
👉Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/method3fitness
👉YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHZixs_RnBaBkmROoa6-cpw?

✨ Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap HERE: https://tinyurl.com/john-heringer to delve into our conversation.

Up Next…
~Michael Barbarita, founder and CEO of Next Step CFO, has spent 40 years building and growing retail, service, and manufacturing businesses. He grew Ski Town USA from $2.5M to $8M and created Cookies To Scoop, featured on QVC and named a top 20 product in Massachusetts.

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What if your business could be deeply profitable and deeply human?

In this episode of The Heart-Led Business Show, we dive into an inspiring conversation with Ally Machate, a literary luminary and the mastermind behind The Writer’s Ally, bringing over 25 years of wisdom from the publishing world. From breaking away from traditional publishing to building a business that truly puts writers first, this episode is real, refreshing, and deeply heart-led.

If you’re an entrepreneur, creative, or aspiring author who wants meaningful impact and sustainable success, this conversation is for you.

🎧 Listen now and let your heart lead.

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Key Takeaways

• What it really means to run a heart-led business
• Ally’s journey from Simon & Schuster to solopreneur to CEO
• The difference between a good book and a marketable one
• How to build a team that shares your mission
• Why not everyone should write a book—and how to know if you should

About the Guest
Ally Machate is a publishing strategist, founder, and CEO of The Writer’s Ally. With 25+ years in the publishing industry, including a career at Simon & Schuster, she helps serious writers publish high-quality books that expand their reach, authority, and impact. Known for her no-fluff approach, Ally empowers authors to succeed on their own terms.

Additional Resources

• Website: https://www.talks.co/allymachate
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/allysonemachate
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/allysonemachate
• Don’t Write the Wrong Book Webinar: https://www.offers.thewritersally.com/heartledbusiness

✨ Explore the Dialogue’s Treasures: Tap HERE https://tinyurl.com/ally-machate to delve into our conversation.

Up Next: Step into the world of fitness with John Heringer, a certified trainer with over 20 years of experience and the owner of Method3 Fitness since 2010. He leads a team of 17 professionals, serving nearly 600 clients, and now focuses on growing Method3 while enjoying life with his family.

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What if the secret to landing your dream client—or even your dream partner—was hiding in your junk drawer? In this episode, Kathi Burns, board-certified professional organizer and author of How to Master Your Muck, shows how clearing clutter can unlock clarity, creativity, and cash flow.

We dive into everything from decluttering your closet and digital workspace to creating mental space for focus, ease, and flow. If you’ve ever felt stuck, overwhelmed, or buried under “stuff,” this episode will show you how small changes lead to big transformations.

🎧 Tune in to learn how to organize your space—and your life—for success and freedom! Like, share, and subscribe for more heart-led insights!

📌Key Takeaways

• Why clutter is more than just a mess—it's a mindset
• The connection between physical space and personal transformation (yes, even your sock drawer)
• How to build your “letting go” muscle and embrace change like a boss
• Inbox zero: productivity myth or miracle?
• Why charging for your services is the most heart-led thing you can do

📌About the Guest
Kathi Burns is a board-certified professional organizer, personal stylist, and author of How to Master Your Muck – Get Organized. Add Space To Your Life. Live Your Purpose! With 20+ years of helping people turn chaos into clarity. From life on the road as a travel writer to building her consultancies—addSpace To Your Life! and Organized and Energized—she empowers entrepreneurs to simplify, save time, and thrive. Featured on Good Morning America and Oprah Magazine, Kathi makes organization stylish, practical, and energizing.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: ww.organizedandenergized.com
✔️Book A Chat with Kathi: www.chatwithkathi.com
✔️LinkedIn: ww.linkedin.com/in/kathiburns
✔️Facebook: www.facebook.com/OrganizedandEnergized
✔️X: x.com/addSpace
✔️Pinterest: ph.pinterest.com/organizenergize/pins/
✔️Instagram: www.instagram.com/organizedenergized
✔️YouTube: www.youtube.com/@KathiBurns/featured
✔️Book: https://tinyurl.com/2k6xadbs
✔️Grab Your FREE Checklist: https://tinyurl.com/2zv46h65

✨ Explore the Dialogue Tap HERE https://tinyurl.com/kathi-burns to delve into our conversation.

~Up Next: Ally Machate, bestselling author and founder of The Writer’s Ally, helps authors publish smarter and grow their reach with 25+ years of expertise.

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